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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2016, 01:41:56 PM »
There is been inadequate discussion of Scalia’s death. He died in resort room normally costing $800 per night, which is way too rich on his salary. He was the guest of John Poindexter, the same John Poindexter who was found criminally guilty in the Iran Contra scandal under Reagan. The decision was overturned. Later he became master of the CIA’s “total information program” to spy on all Americans for all their information. Later he was thrown out of intelligence for a wacko terrorist betting scheme. But he made a fortune supplying intelligence programs to the US intelligence agencies. As a spook with big money and background he was like a private intelligence operation. This is a man who in the morning walked in on Justice Scalia and found him dead. Evidently his body was rushed the funeral home and treated with chemicals. For this most powerful and important man no autopsy was performed. He was pronounced dead by natural causes over the phone. These are the facts. I’m waiting the Hollywood movie thriller the recount them.

Is this true?  Who knows?
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2016, 02:21:20 PM »
Zero would the actual number.

Multiple would be the more accurate #, starting with the degradation of our 2nd amendment freedoms
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2016, 02:56:58 PM »
This is a twenty first century country.

Scalia wanted it to be ruled by what seemed fashionable in 1790.


What particular improvement do you mean ?

When the constitution was first made it was pretty good , it has been improved twenty seven times since then with amendments.

The alternate method to strict interpretation is allowing the Executive and the Legislature to change the meaning of words and phrases at will, this is not much better than  crowning a king.
If the constitution needs improvement , then there is a means to improve it. There is no need at all to allow such "flexibility" that the whole thing becomes a blank check.

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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2016, 03:35:20 PM »
It has not been improved 27 times with amendments. The 18th amendment made it worse, and the 21st Amendment cancelled the 18th. So at most, 25 amendments might have been improvements. 26 if you believe in Prohibition.
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2016, 04:48:10 PM »
  So you quibble.

Would you like to live with no constitution at all?

I know that the English do not have an actual constitution, but they have the common law that is an ancestor to our constitution.

I think that playing ball with no rulebook would be tough, just not cricket.

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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2016, 05:18:40 PM »
And that's precisely the point of the Constitution. 

How would someone like to be playing poker and have 3 kings, only to be beaten by a full house, 5's over 2's.....except, since poker is so 19th century, perhaps we'll just say that 3 of a kind, as long as its a higher suit than the 3 of a kind in a full house, now beats that full house.....I mean, the rules of poker are so......old, right?

Of course not, until the rules are changed, a full house always beats a 3 of a kind.....period

The Constitution, is our bloody rulebook.  It makes it quire clear what the Government can and can't do.  And has the mechanisms built in to change it, if enough folks believe the rules are outdated, and need to be amended

That's why folks like Scalia are despised by the left.  He maintained a support for the rule book, by which Government is to play by.  And since the left frequently can't get many of their desires passed legislatively, they try to do end arounds the Constitution, via the court, claiming garbage like how the verbage if fluid, or that the document is "living".  It's neither, despite how hard the left wants to rationalize themselves an iedological advantage.

The Democrats, even before the 2007 election, made it clear they had no intention of passing any Bush nominees until after the election.  Yet Reid even went so far as to pull out the nuclear option, when it was the GOP who was holding up nominations for Obama.  Sorry Dems, GOP is going to use YOUR rulebook, this go around, and I'm not going to have a 2nd thought about them doing so
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2016, 10:58:57 AM »
The Constitution was written in the 1790's.  It is exceedingly difficult to amend it.  Passing the 14th and 15th Amendment cost  hundreds of thousands of lives.

The rulebook says that the President shall nominate justices. The Republican'ts want him to ignore the Constitution, so that perhaps Ted Cruz can enjoy a massive orgasm in the odd chance that he becomes president. But a majority of the voters voted for Obama to do his job, which is to appoint mambers to the Court.
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2016, 11:10:24 AM »
And poker was established in the 19th century.  Point is it CAN be amended.  It's meant to be hard, so that the latest greatest politically correct fad isn't the latest flavor of the month right to have or lose.  It's too bad you don't like it.  It's too bad Democrats in mass don't like it.  It doesn't give you the justification to ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist, or make up rights that don't exist

And the GOP is going to use the DEMOCRAT playbook now, regarding justice nominations.  In other words, they're not going to bring up any nominee for vote, until after the election.  And when Clinton goes down in flames come Nov, the Senate will then use the nuclear option to pass whoever the hell they want, on a simple majority vote
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2016, 12:47:52 PM »
He was the guest of John Poindexter, the same John Poindexter who was found criminally guilty in the Iran Contra scandal under Reagan. The decision was overturned.

Are you sure that is the same John Poindexter?
Xavier do you have a credible source that states that?

Normally people as they age into their 60's-70's don't get less bald.
It's pretty obvious these two men are not the same person.

John Poindexter - Iran/Contra



John Poindexter - Cibolla Ranch Texas



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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2016, 01:48:20 PM »
I did not say they were the same person.

It appears that they are different John Poindexters.
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2016, 02:50:18 PM »
I did not say they were the same person.

"He was the guest of John Poindexter, the same John Poindexter who was found criminally guilty in the Iran Contra scandal under Reagan"

Short term memory issue or vision problem?
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2016, 10:47:40 PM »
The Constitution was written in the 1790's.  It is exceedingly difficult to amend it.  Passing the 14th and 15th Amendment cost  hundreds of thousands of lives.

The rulebook says that the President shall nominate justices. The Republican'ts want him to ignore the Constitution, so that perhaps Ted Cruz can enjoy a massive orgasm in the odd chance that he becomes president. But a majority of the voters voted for Obama to do his job, which is to appoint mambers to the Court.

The Civil War was conducted outside the constitution , for both sides.

If there had been more patience and virtue  available the Abolition movement might have been successful in the south eventually, who knows?

If the abolition movement had been a lot more successful than changes in law would have been the way to go, better than getting your leg shot off.

Changes in law might have been followed by amendment to the constitution, the war was not a necessary step .

Seriously though, you want a constitution that is easy to change? What if the next change was a repeal of the fourteenth amendment or the fifth?

I swear , I do see a lot of support out there for repeal of the first and second amendments.

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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2016, 04:33:56 AM »
Not to mention that no one is claiming Obama can't nominate whoever he wants.  The Constitution makes clear however that its the purview of the Senate to decide of if that nominee is to be given consideration.  So the GOP isn't ignoring anything.
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2016, 09:29:02 AM »
"He was the guest of John Poindexter, the same John Poindexter who was found criminally guilty in the Iran Contra scandal under Reagan"

Short term memory issue or vision problem?

Where did I say I wrote this article?
I am sure that there are dozens of John Poindexters in this country.
I know that the scumbag Poindexter is the bald guy. I don't know anything about the other one, or whether that was the one Scalia was visiting.
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Re: Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia has passed away
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2016, 09:52:21 AM »
I don't know anything about the other one, or whether that was the one Scalia was visiting.

The NY Times shows clearly that Justice Scalia was not visiting the Poindexter  associated with Iran/Contra.
Give it up dude....your earlier source was clearly wrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/live/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dies-at-79/ranch-owner-says-scalia-just-went-to-sleep-and-didnt-wake-up/
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