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How to Break a Party
« on: February 20, 2016, 05:24:15 AM »
How to Break a Party
[Ross Douthat]

Ross Douthat FEB. 18, 2016

Beginning with the Tea Party wave and continuing through the not-Romney musical chairs of the 2012 Republican primary and the battles over debt limits and fiscal cliffs, most coverage of the Republican Party’s internal divisions during the Obama era fell into an easy groove: There was the establishment, and there was the base.

The establishment aspired to be mainstream and reasonable; the base took pride in being populist and angry. The establishment read The Wall Street Journal; the base loved talk radio and Glenn Beck. The establishment was merely conservative; the base was as far right as you could get.
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But as fiercely as their battles raged, the argument between the base and the establishment was very often about tactics more than ideology. There were exceptions, notably immigration reform, where there was a real policy dispute, and there were times when the base seemed to be groping its way toward a more substantive sort of populism. But mostly the party’s divisions were about how to oppose President Obama, what kind of procedural moves to use against him, which theories to entertain about his motivations and when — if ever — to accept that a policy defeat really was defeat.

Which means that for all the talk about Republican civil war throughout Obama’s presidency, the ideological stakes were often relatively low. No matter which faction was in control, the G.O.P. was officially united against Obama’s programs, and every other argument could wait.

But in the 2016 primary, the wait is over, and we can see the deeper divisions within the party.

These divisions are not new ones. As far back as 2005, when George W. Bush was still the president and not yet the last hope of his brother’s struggling campaign, the Pew Research Center put together a “political typology” that identified three major right-of-center voting blocs. The first, which Pew called “Enterprisers,” were “highly patriotic and strongly pro-business,” hawkish and opposed to social welfare programs. Their political views basically tracked with the party’s official commitments, and certainly tracked with the views of its leadership and donor class.

But Enterprisers were only about a third of the Republican coalition. Another third were “Social Conservatives” — more religious than the Enterprisers, more anxious about mass immigration and more skeptical of business, and more supportive of an active government. The final third was what Pew called “Pro-Government Conservatives” — more financially stressed than the other groups, and even more likely than the Social Conservatives to be supportive of government regulations and a stronger safety net.

Like any classification scheme, this one had its limits, and Pew has updated it repeatedly with different breakdowns in the decade since. But the 2005 edition captured a crucial point that’s been brought home by Donald Trump’s success in 2016: The Republican coalition, its authors wrote, “now includes more lower-income voters than it once did, and many of these voters favor an activist government to help working class people.”

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The 2005 Pew typology also suggested a useful way of looking at that coalition as a whole — not as a simple establishment-plus-base pyramid, but as a complicated partnership among business-friendly conservatives, social conservatives and a more inchoate populist cohort, for whom liberalism seems like an enemy but “big government” is not necessarily a dirty word.

In this alliance, most observers of the Republican Party would agree, the business-friendly conservatives (Pew’s Enterprisers) are clearly the senior partners, religious conservatives are the junior partners and the pro-government populists get deficit-funded spending in boom times and table scraps when things get tight.

But the Enterprisers’ hold on policy making is vulnerable, should religious conservatives and populists both rise against them — which is what many primary-season insurgencies have tried to do. From Pat Buchanan in 1992 and 1996 to Mike Huckabee in 2008 to Rick Santorum four years ago, various would-be outsiders have effectively sought to rally a united front of religious conservatives and populists, in hopes of renegotiating the terms of the coalition’s partnership.

They all failed. In 2016, though, something new is happening. A united front isn’t being forged; instead, we have both a religious conservative and a populist insurgency, the former led by Ted Cruz and the latter by that most unlikely populist, Mr. Trump.
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In theory this should keep the coalition’s weaker partners divided. But Trump is such a phenomenon that he’s winning enough Enterprisers and enough evangelicals to break out of the Buchananite box, while Cruz has a level of funding and organization that no religious conservative candidate has enjoyed before.
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Their joint strength has left less than half of the vote available to the candidates running Republican campaigns — and since there are still three of those candidates, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and John Kasich, we have a strange logjam in which no candidate favored by the party’s normal senior partners can seem to claim more than 20 percent of the vote.

That dynamic may come to an end this weekend in South Carolina; the Enterprisers, donors and party leadership may finally find their candidate.

Whether they do or not, they will still face a sustained two-front rebellion against Republican politics as we have known it since the 1980s. If they’re wise, that rebellion’s strength will inspire concessions and changes, a renegotiation of the conservative coalition’s basic terms.

If they’re not — well, now that we see the real fault lines clearly, it’s also clear how the whole thing could be shattered.
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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 11:24:02 AM »
 A big fight between a bunch of good candidates early is actually a good idea.

Look at how boring the Hillary walk to the nomination was, the Bernie Sanders threat to her nomination has pumped enthusiasm and excitement.

Hillary still has a stranglehold on the professional political class ,, probably an advantage that Sanders has no way to overcome, but the illusion of a debate is good for the process and may produce some people who are excited enough to get out of bed on election day.

Is Bernie Sanders breaking his party by forcing the chosen candidate to actually talk?

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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2016, 02:57:12 PM »
No, Sanders are Clinton are having a very lively and useful debate.

The Republicans, however, assisted greatly by Trump, are not. They are mostly just insulting one another.
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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 11:14:01 PM »
Sanders is .

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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2016, 11:48:22 PM »
Hillary is not calling Sanders a liar, as Trump and Cruz are calling one another.

Sanders stays on target, he has a cause and a message and it is rated as True or Mostly true by everyone. He does not engage in Tales of Benghazi and nonsense about email.

The only Republican who debates fairly that has a chance is Kasich.  Carson is an unqualified nice guy, Rubio is an empty suit, Cruz is an evil weasel.
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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2016, 11:57:21 PM »
  I think calling Sanders a liar would not stick.

  Calling Hillary forthright, honest , up front , or full of integrity couldn't be done with a straight face.

    How exactly did she become the darling of the Democratic party's well connected and well heeled set?

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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2016, 12:07:19 AM »
Bill was a greatly admired Democratic leader. Hillary inherited support from him.
I think she could be a competent president if given a chance.
Of course, the Republicans do everything they can to prevent any Democrat from doing anything.
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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2016, 12:20:48 AM »
Bill was a greatly admired Democratic leader. Hillary inherited support from him.


Yes.

This is her main thing.

Being the great man's wife.

She gets feminist support .

With unacknowledged irony.

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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2016, 03:08:25 PM »
What irony?

Eleanor Roosevelt would also have been unknown but for her husband.

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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2016, 03:39:32 PM »
What irony?

Eleanor Roosevelt would also have been unknown but for her husband.

Unacknowledged irony is the strongest kind.

Eleanor Roosevelt is a scion of feminism?

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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2016, 06:05:26 PM »
She was certainly better at it than Coolidge's wife or even Mary Todd Lincoln.
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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2016, 05:14:12 AM »
She was certainly better at it than Coolidge's wife or even Mary Todd Lincoln.

Better than most certainly, probably the first to use the influence of the First Lady so constructively.

How does Eleanor Roosevelt compare with Hillary Clinton as a first Lady? 

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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2016, 09:37:28 AM »
Different times, different everything. Comparing them is meaningless.

Compare Martha Washington and Ida McKinley and show me how this can be done.
I see this as a useless exercise.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2016, 10:10:17 AM »
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Re: How to Break a Party
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2016, 12:38:06 PM »
Feel the Bern!
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