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kimba1

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Re: Safe space in school
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2016, 02:35:51 PM »
Your giving clues on how responsible colleges are with it's money. Do you think the tuition cost today is justified. Shoukd students pay that much. Putting students in financial is ok.

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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2016, 03:43:34 PM »
A major  problem is with administration. College professors, if they are competent, do not need much administration: they need adequate scheduling ans a way to access technology needed. Administrators are normally not people who have any course work in human relations or management, they are generally teachers with ambition that seek "promotion" because administrators are paid more . a LOT more.  Professors are often adjuncts, paid by the course, as low as $20K per year with zero benefits. Administrators like to hire as many adjuncts as possible, because it frees up money to pay administrators and to hire administrators. There are no adjunct administrators. All were paid over $75K, with full professors who did the actual teaching, getting $10 to $20K less.  New hires got less, unless they taught business or accounting.

The feds decide how much they will pay in student aid, and when this is increased, then tuition is increased. This often does not result in professors getting paid more.  There are a lot of young people who can barely read and are worthless as workers, and if they have a HS diploma or even a GED, many of them end up in college, where they cannot handle the reading and math, as they are at a fifth grade level in both.

They get placed in remedial courses, which are not for college credit, and many are ashamed to be in such classes and drop out, Those that failed at the public college, junior college or whatever still can borrow money. Students who do not understand that the private college will cause them to owe ten times more than the public ones have parents who are also no good at math and they ended up as freshmen in my college. They wanted to be studying for a business degree, but could not do even arithmetic or read  the textbook, so they got in remedial courses. Some took these seriously, but a majority of the students did not, and spent most of their time partying.
'When I was in college at NMSU, everyone I knew studied hard, and this was a powerful reason for everyone top do so. If everyone you know is partying,then most people are inclined to party.

I think that the percentage of students who successfully completed a degree within five years at my college was around 12%. The college knew the retention rate numbers, but never told anyone, because I suspect they were so low.  Most of the freshmen class flunked out before I saw them, since Spanish was a sophomore course for those who has remedial courses. By the time I retired, most of the graduates had not taken any foreign language, because they had transferred in and had the requirement waived. So I do not know how well prepared they were.

My opinion is that my college now serves no real purpose. They should can the officer and  administrators and turn it over to Miami Dade College, where tuitoni s lower and salaries for professors are higher.
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Re: Safe space in school
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2016, 05:11:39 PM »
I`ve always suspected by the sheer volume and cost that colleges are lowering entry requirements just to get that financial aid money from students.I don`t often hear about the graduation rate . except of course the ivy league school has better than most but thier not even the most expensive and they brag they charge a set cost unlike most schools which you do not know the overall cost .

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« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2016, 07:29:49 PM »
Harvard,Yale MIT, Cal Tech, and such only accept the best and the brightest. They are the easiest sort of people to teach on the planet. All you have to do is point them in the right direction and teach them some memory techniques and such and they will come back with amazing ideas.

The hardest people to teach are those too fucking dumb to see any value in knowledge.
You play them music so they can hear the cadences of the language and the way phonemes combine differently from English someone asks "Is this gonna be on the test?"

The easy jobs in academe are the most rewarding, The worst thing that can happen with a brilliant student is when he is a smartass and decided to show the prof how ignorant he is. Like Galileo, Fyneman, perhaps Einstein.
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« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2016, 07:49:13 PM »
It common to not see value in things. People think geology is a waste of time. But that one of the most in demand job around. Nasa is considered a waste of money but it took less than a year and a half to prove how wrong it was to defund it.

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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2016, 09:07:50 PM »
Nasa is still at work. I do notn thi8nkit was ever completely defunded.

Geology is quite useful.
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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2016, 02:27:25 PM »
Just the manned mission was shutdown and this in turn they found effect satellite launches and other problems. One of the main reason is no difference in expenses and notice alot of money spent outside of the country. The nail on the coffin is russia refusing in our space program.

It doesn't exactly help that the best satellite rockets are not American. We're actually falling behind and have alot of catching up

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« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2016, 10:56:09 AM »
Manned missions do not make sense, because we have no reason to visit the Moon against, and we still do not have the technology to send people to Mars and return them to Earth.

Sending robots does not require a life support system, and  humans are nit required to be in the vehicle to acquire the data we want and need.
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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2016, 08:12:29 PM »
People need to be there to occupy the real estate.

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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2016, 10:26:55 PM »
So we can prevent the Thelosians from taking over?  Or the Breen?

Little is known of the Breen.

I do not think that manned missions are over. But the difference between a Moon mission and a mission even to Mars. like the distance, is huge.
I think that for the next dozen years or so we need to work on safer and more efficient technology using unmanned missions.
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« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2016, 12:06:19 AM »
Manned mission has nothing to do with people going to space. It has everything to do with progress . The very challenge to go into space with bring innovation in transportation,communications,medicine etc.

The moon is a fixed satellite and maybe very helpful with our telecommunications. The very act of going to mars for humans has tremendous medical applications. Remember man is totally completely not meant to be in space. So if we can get people to survive in trips in space the benefits will be great.
A lady once argued against space travel with me and said we should not be space to inspire us to innovate. My quick answer is so far that has never been proven true. Doesn't help her case that nasa funding got restored in such a short time and afterward we had some had some serious huge failure proving we got alot of catching up to do.

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« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2016, 07:19:34 PM »
 afterward we had some had some serious huge failure proving we got alot of catching up to do.


We did?  I don't recall anyone dying. Did I miss something?
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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2016, 08:33:00 PM »
no deaths but very costly failed launches.