Obamacare unsustainable

[Plane]

Any law that deals with the health of 300,000,000 people subject to accidents and all manner of disease is going to be complex.

  Simpler would be better.

   Especially since it is dealing with payment for health care much more than health care itself.

   If you made a list of all the features that are popular, enacted that, President Obama would be a hero for it , and it would be simple enough to write on a post card.

[Plane]

i just hope I can use it when I really need it

Meh..

It isn't bad for everyone.

But it has that potential.

[kimba1]

i have a fatal condition and eventually need surgury to address it. so I can`t half ass on my healthcare. ironiclly before obama care changed the laws . I believe I had no healthcare options to fix this. I`m actually one of those people the opposition say just can`t be helped .

a very polite life sucks and then you die

[Plane]

i have a fatal condition .................

   That is not uncommon.

    I hope that somewhere in the system and law is something that addresses your need.

     My need is different , but I just pay whatever Blue Cross demands , I pretty soon draw it all back out.

       I have had a lot of success with FSAFEDS which is only available to federal employees, it allows me to set aside a bit of money without taxes as long as I spend it all on medicine . I even get to spend money earlier than I deposit it. It only fails if I have too little expenses , then I don't get any back.

       MSA is a similar plan , for many of the public.
       But I know a lot less about it.
     
         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_savings_account_(United_States)

[sirs]

i have a fatal condition and eventually need surgury to address it. so I can`t half ass on my healthcare. ironiclly before obama care changed the laws . I believe I had no healthcare options to fix this. I`m actually one of those people the opposition say just can`t be helped .

a very polite life sucks and then you die

I can definitely empathize with you Kimba, but at the same time, you're kinda helping to make Plane's point.....the simpler any legislation, the easier it would be to target issues related to your needs.  What we have instead, is a bureaucratic nightmare, and guess who gets the short end of the stick??.....the middle class taxpayers, and everyone sentenced to abide by the Obamacare parameters. 

And they just keep getting worse.  Not only are premiums STILL going up, despite the promises they would come down.  Not only are you not able to keep your Doctor or Insurance plan, if you liked them, despite what was promised.  The latest-greatest imposition coming down the pike is that for any pt with a specific diagnosis, such as a total knee replacement, the hospital is to receive 1 lump sum....for everything (the surgery, the hospital stay, the payment for all those providing the direct care, as well as any Home Health, and/or out-patient services).  And if the Hospital in question, goes over that amount, they're actually fined.  But if we get the patient out toot-sweet, the hospital gets a "bonus".  In other words, the incentive being pushed by Obamacare is to discharge that patient as soon as possible, and screw safety or pain management.  Get them under your lump sum, and get a bonus.  BUT, take too long because you're trying to manage their pain, or they have complications that require more intensive post-op issues, and you actually will get fined for daring to care for the patient.  That's the monstrosity currently running our healthcare system

And people wonder why a majority of the country STILL don't like Obamacare

[kimba1]

By far i don`t think obamacare is perfect and like any system always room for improvement. but I acknowledge it`s presense has benefited me and if it never happened alot of people would of been harmed. the chaos is not the issue for me but the inflexibility to adapt . this system should never of been made without a knowing it`ll have a very shaky start which it had anyway. ex. overwhelmed computer system

my biggest issue is not truely obamacare but  uses this system to divert focus on a much bigger and much harder to explain problem and thats cost. a normal check up can easily cost 100`s if not over a thousand but with insurance we pay less out of pocket. meaning people overall cannot financially opt out of insurance and all insurance will be costly to people. thiers no budget over sight for cost. my bill was 80k for 7 days in ICU the worst hotel in the world.
the whole heathcare system is a problem. it`s good to fix obamacare to pound out issue but it`s all bandaid to a ever growing larger problem

[sirs]

So yes, while your particular case, and others similar might have had an improvement, the idea of destroying a system that worked for the vast majorty, to help a fraction of the population that it may not have, while blanketing the middle class with a massive bill to pay for it, is literally counter-productive.  So much the better had legislation be carved to specifically address your needs, vs the financial chaos and healthcare crisis we've bee saddled with, instead

[Xavier_Onassis]

Simple would be to simply extend  Medicare along with the option of  Medicare ADvantage Plans, to everyone. Then introduce voluntary programs to help people stop smoking and make better choices in diet and exercise.

[sirs]

No...simple STARTS with getting Government out from the driver's seat of trying to provide healthcare.  Then we go from there, with incentives that the Government can propose

[sirs]

[Plane]

Simple would be to simply extend  Medicare along with the option of  Medicare ADvantage Plans, to everyone. Then introduce voluntary programs to help people stop smoking and make better choices in diet and exercise.

Why wasn't this simply offered to the people during the time that the Presidents party held both houses of congress?

[Xavier_Onassis]

You know why. Al Franken took forever to be given his seat.  A few Democrats, including a Nebraska senator, was against any plan,
There is plenty of daily information that explains the entire process.
The Republicans would not pass anything Obama favored. They would not have passed a resolution that kittens were cute.
Some Democrats were stupid corrupt or both,

[Plane]

You know why. Al Franken took forever to be given his seat.  A few Democrats, including a Nebraska senator, was against any plan,
There is plenty of daily information that explains the entire process.
The Republicans would not pass anything Obama favored. They would not have passed a resolution that kittens were cute.
Some Democrats were stupid corrupt or both,

Al Franken should not have taken that seat, his win depended on cheats.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Franken won fair and square. He is vastly smarter than the chucklehead he ran against.
But that is not the issue, The Democrats did not have enough votes in the Senate until that election was officially decided.
Then Ted Kennedy died, which was another complication.
The insurance companies did not want to have a major profit center removed, President Obama let the Democrats in Congress pass the plan. It does not really deserve to be named Obamacare, but the name appealed to Obama's fans as well as Republican racists

[Plane]

..... Obamacare, but the name appealed to Obama's fans as well as Republican racists

Please pick one , having both doesn't make sense.


If you would rather call it "Frankencare" I could be agreeable.