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Looks like Obama screwed seniors as well!
« on: June 06, 2016, 12:21:36 AM »
Medicare: The Ponzi Scheme That Keeps Restricting Americans' Healthcare Options

by DR. SUSAN BERRY

5 Jun 2016

The federal government is set to cut Medicare spending on older Americans and also to extract more Medicare taxes from younger Americans who can?t get any benefit from the program.

"Medicare is totally flying under the radar," Dr. Lee Vliet, a preventive medicine physician with practices in Arizona and Texas, tells Breitbart News.

"Medicare is a single payer system in that funding comes from the taxpayers, but it is like Obamacare in preserving a lucrative role for private cronies, who receive the government money and disburse it," Vliet explains. "When Medicare was enacted there was immediate trouble with an explosion in costs, resulting in an almost immediate violation of the original legislative promise of no interference with physician decision-making, or with their compensation."

Older Americans on Medicare have faced big out-of-pocket costs that are about to get even bigger. In a report on Obamacare's sixth year, Heritage Foundation health policy expert Dr. Robert Moffit notes that President Barack Obama's signature healthcare reform would cut $715 billion from Medicare over the next decade to help pay for Obamacare.

"It is logically impossible to cut payments for Medicare services without affecting seniors who depend on those services," Moffit writes, observing that in their 2015 report, the Medicare Trustees confirmed the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) Chief Actuary's concerns about the severe impact of Medicare healthcare provider payment reductions on older Americans? access to healthcare.

The CMS Actuary projected that by 2040, most hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, and home health agencies will become unprofitable, leading to a significant reduction in access to healthcare for older Americans.

"Few seniors have complained about the lack of an alternative, or the fact that seniors must enroll in Medicare Part A if they want their Social Security benefits," Vliet observes. "The question is: Will Medicare be able to continue to provide the care today?s seniors expect? The answer is an unequivocal NO."

Medicare is a government-run ponzi scheme, enacted by President Lyndon Johnson in 1965, which shifts the cost of healthcare for current older Americans on to younger working Americans.

In addition to the problem of increasing restrictions on healthcare for Americans on Medicare, there is the other dilemma of forcing younger, working Americans to pay for current Medicare recipients' health needs even though the Medicare program will unlikely be there for them when it is their turn to retire. The question remains whether younger Americans should be able to save for their own retirement healthcare rather than be forced to pay taxes into a declining Medicare system.

Americans must sign onto Medicare Part A, which covers hospitalization, when they turn 65, or else forfeit their Social Security benefits. Unelected bureaucrats created this rule in the 1990s during the Clinton administration, even though the actual Social Security or Medicare legislation say nothing about such a requirement. A lawsuit aimed at decoupling the two programs failed in 2012, leaving any remedy of the situation up to Congress.

Physician and Arizona state Sen. Dr. Kelli Ward (R) who is running a primary challenge against incumbent U.S. Sen. John McCain, tells Breitbart News, "Unelected bureaucrats have no business forcing government-controlled healthcare on Americans who choose other options."

"Holding hostage a major portion of a worker's lifetime earnings is not only unethical, a fiduciary dollar is a fiduciary dollar, it is also in this case entirely unconstitutional," Ward adds. "I enthusiastically agree with Senator Mike Lee that all regulatory burdens proposed by executive branch agencies must be approved by Congress as required by Article I of the Constitution: "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress" actually means ALL "legislative powers".

"Why would the government want to force people to take this Medicare benefit?" Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons and a specialist in internal medicine. "Soon after Medicare was passed, Johnson wanted to force people into Medicare Part A because he wanted his program to succeed and he expected it wouldn't if people still had the option to purchase private insurance."

She continues:

And so Johnson basically talked all the insurance companies into cancelling policies for everybody over the age of 65. People were thus forced into Medicare. The financing of Medicare from the beginning was designed to fail or to be a ponzi scheme. I don't think they foresaw the dramatic change in the demographics that have occurred, but nevertheless, in the way it was structured, money was never set aside, it was never invested for the people who were putting their money into it. It was always set up to depend upon new taxpayers.

At the time Medicare was signed into law, the average life expectancy was approximately 69 years. Because of advances in medicine, many seniors in 2016 are living well into their 80s and beyond.

"Longevity has definitely improved and, in addition, the baby boomers didn't have enough children," Orient says. "Now we're down to two or fewer working people supporting each and every retired person. This is a burden the younger generation cannot sustain."

The idea of opting out of Medicare, however, often raises objections from both those who believe they are entitled to the government-run health care program because they paid taxes into it while they were working, and those who would simply prefer to have the government "take care" of healthcare for them.

Orient says older Americans who believe they are "entitled" to Medicare because they paid into the system aren't understanding how the ponzi scheme works. In addition, with Medicare about to be even further restricted, current recipients will be in for a rude awakening as soon as next year when the program will feel even more like a burden to be endured.

"People are in denial, particularly about the fiscal realities of Medicare," she continues. "Bernie Sanders may say that he wants to put everybody in Medicare, and his program has been estimated to cost from anywhere between $2 trillion to $14 trillion. Where is that money going to come from? The fact is it doesn't exist! It?s hard to believe anyone would have confidence in such a plan."

Vliet agrees that some are not understanding the realities about Medicare.

"Some people are looking at Medicare as it has been, not as it will be under the new rules, which don't even really kick in until 2017," she explains. "When people see that Medicare will be broke and thus will be restricting many more procedures that they may need, as well as hospital re-admissions, etc.  and it will get worse when Obamacare's Independent Payment Advisory Board gets here in 2017, they will want some other options."

Dr. Kristin Held, a Texas-based ophthalmologist, tells that another law passed by Congress last year will create higher costs for older Americans on Medicare Part B, which covers physicians' services and out-patient and ambulatory surgery. Yet, the law hardly received any notice at all in the media.

"In the Medicare Access and CHIP Reauthorization Act (MACRA) that was passed last year, there is increased means-testing for Medicare Part B," says Held.

She explains:

So, here you have people who paid into Medicare during their working years, and now, all of a sudden, in order to keep Part B they?re going to be paying $400 per month each for a Medicare plan that is also more restricted. A married couple already retired could be paying $800 per month for Medicare Part B. They will absolutely want to consider a private contract arrangement with their doctor.

Held, who has a blog about healthcare, herself opted out of Medicare as a physician last October, even though her ophthalmology practice sees many older Americans for treatments of cataracts and other eye diseases. She says she has seen patients who have what is referred to as "Medicare replacement plans." In addition, her office tries to help patients understand what kind of coverage they have and help them file for reimbursement for themselves.

"That's really more appropriate, because a patient's agreement is with his or her insurance company," she says. "My agreement is with my patient, not the insurance company. I tell my patients I am out-of-network and I work for you, but I will help you work with the insurance company you're paying."

"So, I might say to a patient, "You saw me today, and your copay would have been $65, but you have a follow-up visit at my office for $45. You saved $20 by not using your insurance."

Held warns people about to turn 65 that Medicare does not cover technology and innovation in ophthalmology. She explains how she works with patients who have Medicare:

If a cataract patient wants to have a special lens to correct astigmatism so she would not have to wear glasses after the surgery, Medicare will not pay for that lens. If she wants to have laser surgery, Medicare will not pay the additional cost for a laser, even though the outcomes are more predictable. So if a patient with Medicare comes to me to do the surgery, my fee includes the laser and the upgrade to the special lens. When I've compared my fee to that of my colleagues who accept Medicare, I am $1,000 less per eye than a colleague of mine five minutes away who is a Medicare participating provider. Patients who are smart and want that technology can come to me and file a Medicare opt-out form so they can private contract with me. They can use their Medicare Part B at the surgery center where I perform surgeries, pay me my direct fee, and save $1,000 per eye in this situation.

Held urges Americans who are on Medicare to explore options for private alternatives.

"People have to hunt around to find private health insurance plans that will take on older Americans who otherwise would be on Medicare Part B," she says. "Health-sharing ministries were exempted from Obamacare and they often take on Medicare patients. There are other, more creative options out there, but people have to be willing to look for them if they really want to save money. Of course, we also have to be vigilant to ensure the government doesn?t shut this option down."

Vliet, Orient, and Held agree that when more Americans opt out of Medicare, there will be more of a market for private insurance companies to contract with older Americans and for direct pay without the use of a third party payer system. If patients were able to purchase health insurance across state lines, competition among the insurance companies for that market would drive prices down as well.

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Re: Looks like Obama screwed seniors as well!
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2016, 01:39:41 PM »
  This is easy enough to understand , why do so few "get" this?

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2016, 01:46:49 PM »
The Heritage Foundation is  just a propaganda organization.
They lie about everything.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2016, 02:00:26 PM »
   The only way this isn't true , is if there are plenty of working people paying plenty of taxes.

   The pig has reached the third third of the Python's alimentary canal.

    It will be ridiculously painful before it is clear.

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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2016, 02:12:14 PM »
They should raise taxes, then.   And we know who has most of the money.
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Re: Looks like Obama screwed seniors as well!
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2016, 02:40:15 PM »
We also know who already pays the vast majority of the current taxes, don't we
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2016, 02:57:04 PM »
The people who get the lion's share of the benefits of living here. You will never be one of them, nor will your children or grandchildren.

They will never share their huge fortunes with you, unless you squeeze their balls and make them pay.

Romney paid $14,000 on a multimillion dollar income, and that was on a year in which he almost certainly did not avail himself of every tax break because he was running for president.  Trump paid so little he will not divulge his tax bill.

Please, take that shit elsewhere.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2016, 03:27:29 PM »
We also know who already pays the vast majority of the current taxes, don't we

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 03:32:13 PM »
We also know who already pays the vast majority of the current taxes, don't we

plus even if we taxed the wealthy at 90% it would still not cover the corrupt spending in Washington
the math just isn't there
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2016, 05:01:58 PM »
That is a clearly false statement. "Corrupt" spending is subset of "total spending".
A lot of 'total spending' is on items that are not corrupt, just unnecessary.
The fact it that the right wing has been yammering about how Medicare benefits are going to be cut and so far my premium has been the same and  only a discretionary amount of OTC drugstore stuff (vitamins, cold remedies) has been cut from $4-0 a month to $25 a month.
So when I heart this bullshit, I know it for what it is: bullshit.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2016, 07:47:07 PM »
    There are limits to be reached on taxes, are we near or far from these limits?

    It seems to be the strategy of the Democratic party to distribute largesse on the large voting blocks that can be made by this, loyal.

      But if you look at how Clintons and Kerrys pay taxes , you know that their strategy for taxation does not include closing tax loopholes for the tax brackets they are actually a part of.


      The wealthy include our most productive and our most mobile, if we were really taxing them too much they would just go.

      And I don't think they would leave their capital nor their means of production behind.

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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2016, 03:27:26 PM »


Goldman Sachs: Obamacare forcing hundreds of thousands into part-time work

By JOSEPH LAWLER

June 8, 20166/8/16 8:48 AM

Obamacare is forcing hundreds of thousands of people into part-time work, according to a new analysis from the bank Goldman Sachs.

In a research note sent out Wednesday, bank economist Alec Phillips concluded that "the evidence suggests that the [Affordable Care Act] has at least modestly elevated involuntary part-time employment." He wrote that a "few hundred thousand" workers may have had their hours cut or been forced to take part-time jobs because of the law.

Goldman Sachs' analysis is the latest conduct on the contentious topic of the healthcare law and part-time work, and its findings largely back up what other studies have revealed, Phillips wrote. The bank weighed in on the question after involuntary part-time work rose sharply in recent months.

Obamacare is thought to incentivize part-time work through several means. One is that employers with more than 50 full-time workers face penalties if they do not provide health insurance coverage, giving them a reason to cut hours or avoid hiring new workers if they are near the 50 employee level.

Goldman Sachs reviewed the industries with the most workers without health care coverage working for firms with at least 50 employees, such as bars, restaurants, and retail stores.

Those industries, the analysis found, have higher numbers of workers working part-time involuntarily.

In other sectors with greater health care coverage, the relationship wasn't as strong.

As a share of the total 6.4 million people forced into part-time work, a few hundred thousand is not that many, Phillips noted. But that number could help explain why involuntary part-time work is still as elevated as it is this late in the jobs recovery.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/goldman-sachs-obamacare-forcing-hundreds-of-thousands-into-part-time-work/article/2593315
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2016, 06:24:03 PM »
 And I don't think they would leave their capital nor their means of production behind.

Yeah, right, a guy with 200 McBurger joints will sell them all and start over in Chennai.
A guy with four dozen office buildings will sell them all and head for Singapore.

You are simply dead wrong about this.

No one would raise the top tax bracket (over 2M a year) beyond 45%. He still has tons and tons and tons of money.
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2016, 09:02:43 PM »
And I don't think they would leave their capital nor their means of production behind.

Yeah, right, a guy with 200 McBurger joints will sell them all and start over in Chennai.
A guy with four dozen office buildings will sell them all and head for Singapore.

You are simply dead wrong about this.

No one would raise the top tax bracket (over 2M a year) beyond 45%. He still has tons and tons and tons of money.

So , you haven't heard about Oreo cookies?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/03/10/oreo-white-house-contenders-crosshairs-over-outsourcing/81575488/

This is indeed happening, has been for a while .

Of course it is not all taxes , it is not all that Americans are increasingly hard to employ. It is not entirely the government.

But where the government is involved , it is entirely pulling the wrong way.