Gun ownership demographics

[Plane]

     There is more to this. Homeowners own guns more than renters, people who travel a lot generally go unarmed unless they are carrying jewelry.

      The biggest real divide is Urban vs rural.

      This stacks up to plenty of change in who wants a gun.
       Year by year.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstories/smith-and-wesson-holding-corp-should-be-very-worried-about-these-numbers-hint-its-not-fbi-background-checks/ar-AAhE0cg

................since 2012, Smith & Wesson has produced over one million M&P Shield handguns, a smaller, more lightweight model geared to the concealed carry market. Intuitively, it would also be a weapon more popular with women, who the National Shooting Sports Foundation says constitute the fastest growing segment in the industry.

While catering to women will be important, there are already large and growing numbers who own a gun. It's going to be key for the industry to also target other segments of the population, pushing for increased gun ownership among minorities, too.

And while events like the mass shooting in Orlando that left 49 people dead are always tragic, it's reported the incident has caused a surge in gun-buying among the LGBT community. Although I doubt there is any hard data on gun ownership based on sexual ..........

[Xavier_Onassis]

Intuitively, it would also be a weapon more popular with women, who the National Shooting Sports Foundation says constitute the fastest growing segment in the industry.


After a gun nit has all the guns he can use, he is likely to buy a gun for his wife and daughter.

[Plane]

After a gun nit has all the guns he can use, he is likely to buy a gun for his wife and daughter.

That is true .

Wife Daughter and Trans gendered offspring can also buy a firearm on their own.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Also true.

Again, eventually , the more guns there are in circulation. the more people will get shot.
Gun owners are not mortal, but their guns do last longer than they do, and not all heirs are stable or smart, and some guns do not go to the heirs.

[sirs]

Again, eventually , the more guns there are in circulation. the more people will get shot.

Which is again refuted by the facts, that as more guns have been purchased legally then ever before, and more guns in circulation, there is absolutely no correlation in more people getting shot....except in various and TV dramas

Damn facts

 

[Plane]

Also true.

Again, eventually , the more guns there are in circulation. the more people will get shot.
Gun owners are not mortal, but their guns do last longer than they do, and not all heirs are stable or smart, and some guns do not go to the heirs.

No.

If this were a factor , it would already be a strong factor. Practically none of us have no gun owning grandparent.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Practically none of us have no gun owning grandparent.


The double negative is confusing.  Are you saying that practically all of you have a gun owning grandparent?

Many people who have guns die and there is no system to trace what actually happens to the gun.
The more gun owners die, the more guns there will be  in unknown and possibly incompetent or malicious hands.

[Plane]

  What do you think the truth is?

    Gun ownership has been common since the  Colonial period.

       Very old guns are common family heirlooms .

           People who bequeath guns are much more likely to choose well than any government agency.

               The government has limits in its ability to trace guns , this limiting is not accidental and has a beneficial effect.

                    If you like the idea of the government knowing where every gun is , you should learn why this idea is not a success in Canada.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Canada has a teensy fraction of the gun violence we have.

[Plane]

Canada has a teensy fraction of the gun violence we have.

Not due to gun registration at all.

Because that isn't working.


Probably not because of gun restriction either, did Canada have close to the US level of violent crime before the gun round ups?

I would rather consider Chicago, where the police actually spend a lot of time taking guns off the street. This mostly disarms the potential victims , such that the fewer guns there are in Chicago , the more they are concentrated in the malicious.

[Plane]

The new research also suggests a paradox: While blacks are significantly more likely than whites to be gun homicide victims, blacks are only about half as likely as whites to have a firearm in their home (41% vs. 19%). Hispanics are less likely than blacks to be gun homicide victims and half as likely as whites to have a gun at home (20%).

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/15/the-demographics-and-politics-of-gun-owning-households/


   Why call this a paradox?

    Compare city by city if you will.

     

       This is not a paradox , it is an effect.


   Perhaps politically it is a paradox.
    Statistically it is a correlation.

[Christians4LessGvt]

[Christians4LessGvt]

Canada has a teensy fraction of the gun violence we have.

It's not just the guns...

I suppose you think the racial makeup of Canada has NOTHING to do with the "teensy" crime rate?

Blacks in Canada makeup about 2% of the population (945,665)
Blacks in US makeup 12.6% of the population (42,020,743)

"Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks commit around half of homicides in the United States. DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

More up to date FBI statistics tell a similar story. In 2013, black criminals carried out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites, again despite the fact that there are five times more white people in the U.S.

From 2011 to 2013, 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering."

[Plane]

  That still is not the whole story.

   Do minorities in Canada commit a disproportionate number of crimes?

     I don't know if they do , but that isn't the point I am after.

       If the minorities of Canada are within the culture of Canada they probably move within the same patterns as the rest of the Canadians.

          Behavior isn't much depending on bloodline in human beings , we are much more dependent on training than are creatures that are born with a lot of instincts.

        So we have trained ourselves and each other to move separately and differently where we are one nation we are several cultures.

         I don't see any way to make us a single culture, but I do think that our several cultures can learn trust respect and safety around each other.

       Or not , this is a choice.

         Without mentioning any names , can you think of how our differences are exploitable for power and profit?

           I don't approve of Republicans or Democrats who magnify differences and otherness for the purpose of aggrandizement.

           I think that the businesses and banks that used to promote greenlining are getting better about that, at about the same speed that the politicians are getting worse.

[sirs]

The elephant in the room is "culture".....fostering a culture creates actions down the road.  The culture of Asians has "generally" demonstrated a focus on both family and education.  Kimba can elaborate on that, if he'd like.  This isn't about stereotyping, it's simply about culture.   The growing culture of Backs in this country, in particular since the welfare state was established, and facilitated by racist hucksters such as JJ and Sharpton, has brought about skyrocketing single mothers, having multiple children, with no father figure, and no financial foundation...leading to many of those black males choosing less than legal means of supporting themselves, and the culture they grew up in.

Of course there are many blacks (& Asians) that buck those cultures and current norms, just pointing out again, that its not about guns, and never has been.  It's how one is taught to believe.  That's why you have the culture of Palestinians believing that Israelis are the evils of society.  It's why you have out of control radical Islamic extremists, routinely stoning women, throwing gays off roofs, and torturing their "enemies", for all to see.