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What is the result of endless war?
« on: July 09, 2016, 09:57:08 AM »
You end up with crazy snipers who are excellent shots and kill lots more citizens.

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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2016, 04:48:33 PM »
Can't we have this without the war?

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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2016, 05:18:38 PM »
When men see in a war zone that problems can easily be solved by killing others and threatening the rest with guns, they remember this.

When I was a child, my parents told me how awful the Nazis were because they busted into houses inthe middle of the night and arrested people for no good reason.
That is precisely what our taxes paid our army to do in Iraq and Afghanistan. They did not speak the language, they could not understand the people, they were simply well equipped and well armed thugs. People spent months in Abu Graib and no one knew why they had been arrested.

Of course, after the war, the same troops needed work and since they had great weapons training, they joined the police.
The chickens have come home to roost. Some of the ex military, like Tim Mc Veith, John Allen Muhammad (the DC Beltway shooter) and the latest Dallas shooter did not become cops, They simply became mass murderers.
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2016, 05:24:56 PM »
And would have been mass murderers regardless of gun access.  Last I checked, McVei killed with fertilizer.  It's not about the guns.  Nor are we emplying nazi tactics, of busting down doors for no reason.  The only thing remotely fascist, is the current polices and agenda of trying to disarm the populace by leftists who think they know better.  We fought wars to demonstrate just how wrong they were
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2016, 05:34:23 PM »
When men see in a war zone that problems can easily be solved by killing others and threatening the rest with guns, they remember this.



  Has there really been a lot of people return from combat saying that combat is the easy way?


      I don't think this is a real explanation for anything.


            Most people who have seen combat , do not like the stuff.

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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2016, 07:01:50 PM »
Ok XO
to end endless war with worldwide control freaks...IslamoNazis and others
I would approve of the US becoming a total isolationist country
shutting down the borders completely
building walls north and south
thank God for the Pacific and Atlantic...not many mongrels can walk in that way!
and thus not be the worlds policeman
and there would be no more endless wars for us
we'd save tons of money
could spend that money on Americans
America First!
we don't need anyone else...we'd survive just fine
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2016, 07:49:34 PM »
            Most people who have seen combat , do not like the stuff.

That's an understatement
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2016, 04:23:59 PM »
Observe that those who have mongered our wars have never actually personally fought them.
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2016, 04:32:35 PM »
Which means absolutely nothing, since your decisions as President, are based on those recommendations, of those who have
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2016, 04:36:23 PM »
The people who do the actual fighting are not the ones fighting the wars.
Warming an office chair is not fighting.
Cheney and Juniorbush decided we would invade Iraq before 9-11. Blair, it seems, backed him all the way.
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2016, 05:34:54 PM »
The people who do the actual fighting are not the ones fighting the wars.

Apples/oranges.  A President surrounds himself with those who HAVE, when making decisions about war.  You think Obama is making all the Afghanistan decisions by himself??  Do you not recall, that when he was running for President, he made it clear that Bush was simply waging the wrong war.  Per Obama, he had every intention of mongering a war in Afghanistan, following 911.  I realize facts to a toe tag liberal is like kryptonite to Superman, but las I checked, Obama had squat exposure to anything military
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2016, 07:15:09 PM »
Observe that those who have mongered our wars have never actually personally fought them.


    Does this mean that you would vote for Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Bob Dole, John McCain or another distinguished Veteran?

     Perhaps John Kerry? Not my favorite example , but   a genuine veteran .

     I dispute the premise of your statement , and adjure you to not request what you really do not want.

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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2016, 09:48:57 PM »
I would not vote for anyone simply because he was a veteran,

I did not voter for Bob Dole or John McCain.

I would probably have voted for JFK, but the alternative was worse, I was too young to vote in 1960.

I would have voted for Adlai Stevenson.

I did vote for Kerry, because Juniorbush was a fool, as he still is to this very day.
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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2016, 11:26:49 PM »
I would not vote for anyone simply because he was a veteran,



Well then , don't complain that fighters are not available as leaders.

People who have fought know how awful it is and know more about why it is worthwhile to avoid .

Congress used to have a lot of vets , now that there are fewer and we are about to elect a short tempered person , no to mention that we are already at war in the longest war ever for us...

I think  veteran status would have been a plus, it just isn't available right now.

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Re: What is the result of endless war?
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2016, 11:41:49 PM »
BINGO
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