Escaping From The Left!

[Christians4LessGvt]

"But lefties who move in and hope to finance tighter regulations with higher taxes often get the cold shoulder. Mr Walsh weeds out lefties from the start, politely declining to show them property, noting that they wouldn't fit in anyway. This discrimination is legal, he says, because political factions, unlike race or sexual orientation, are not legally protected classes".

People trying to escape control freak Left!
Just the beginning!

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21703411-movement-staunch-conservatives-and-doomsday-watchers-inland-north-west

[Xavier_Onassis]

If Texas secedes, you would be a foreigner in Idaho, CU4.

Unlike you, I have visited Coeur D'Alene in the winter.

There is not a single brass statue in the Idaho panhandle that still has its nuts.
The cold has frozen them off.

[Christians4LessGvt]

If Texas secedes, you would be a foreigner in Idaho, CU4.

I don't have any plans to go to Idaho, but I admire the patriots there.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I visited Coeur D'Alene in the winter of '67, when it was mostly miners and a few farmers.
I don't think your definition as a patriot as a person who hates Blacks and minorities  and likes to blow holes in things with a gun is particularly accurate,
I don't admire them, I am just glad they are in northern Idaho.
Mormons tend to produce a lot of ignorant White Power nutcases.

[sirs]

Can you be any more of an ass?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Cliven Bundy and his sons and the rest of the  fools that seized the Malheur Wildlife Reserve were all some sort of Mormon wackjobs. The LSD has disowned them, but they are all over Nevada, Oregon, Washington State and Idaho.

[Plane]

  The Government that seized that prairie and determined that this land would never be privately owned is not serving the people who live and work there.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The Government BOUGHT that land and manages it for the common good.


The government has no obligation to sell it, and of course, Bundy did not want to own it, because he could not pay the taxes on it. He wanted to use it for free and to overgraze it as much as he wanted. The government has no obligation to sell or rent the land that it owns.

[Plane]

   I am glad that Georgia is not as afflicted with federal ownership as western states are.

     There is very little land in Nevada, if you don't count the federal owned land Nevada is smaller than Connecticut.

         There are not a few people fed up with it.

            There might be a better way to protest than these cowboys taking over a park.

               There needs to be.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Land in Nevada is largely useless. People had their chance to homestead in Nevada, but they did not bother, because there is no water, and even where there was, the soil is alkali and will not grow anything edible or otherwise useful.

However, if you turn a bunch of goats loose on it, or over graze it, they will eat the scrub plants that do grow there, resulting in their extinction, and what happens is that windstorms will blow alkali dust over into the parts of CA and NV that will support crops and poison the soil there.

If you knew more about desert climates, you might be qualified to be taken seriously on this. I am no expert, but I am a graduate of NMSU, and had friends that studied desert agriculture.

[Plane]

   Does proper land management require government ownership?

    Even better , does proper land management require ignoring the needs of the people who live there?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Why are people living on government land?

Cliven Bundy agreed to pay rent on the government owned  pasture he was using. He refused to pay it for years.
He was a squatter, who threatened the police.
He is ij jail and deserves to be there.

[Plane]

     Why must the people have Uncle Sam be the landlord?


        You want the west to be evacuated?


             Our situation is land reform in reverse.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The land in question is not profitable in any way. No one can make a living off of it without damaging surrounding more profitable land.
 I am all for keeping Bundy and his brood in jail. They were clearly in violation of the law and broke the  rental contract they signed to use the land.

Do you think we should just GIVE the land to exploiters like Bundy? The government bought it with taxpayers' money. So it actually belongs to us, as taxpayers. Bundy just owned a ranch house. He was overgrazing the land. He was not paying the required rent.

[Plane]

Do you think we should just GIVE the land to exploiters like Bundy? The government bought it with taxpayers' money. So it actually belongs to us, as taxpayers. Bundy just owned a ranch house. He was overgrazing the land. He was not paying the required rent.

  If it is not being used much there is an Indian tribe that wants it, no they were never paid any tax money for it.