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How do you not love this guy?
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:07:49 PM »
Donald Trump's surreal Friday, from press row

By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
Updated 12:47 PM ET, Sat September 17, 2016

Trump finally ends birther lie
Miami (CNN)A manufactured storyline. A promise of a "major statement." And an ulterior motive.

Donald Trump on Friday pulled off his latest media stunt, scoring more than 20 minutes of free live TV time to tout the endorsement of more than a dozen veterans and to talk up his new hotel in Washington after he and his campaign had promised he would address his longstanding, controversial "birther" position.

Then, he made a 67-word statement stating that he now believes President Barack Obama was born in the US, and quickly abandoned the podium -- leaving reporters bellowing questions into the ether.

None of us were surprised.

After all, Friday's circus was nothing short of standard operating procedure for the real estate mogul and his media-bashing campaign -- and just the latest example of how Trump fueled his political rise through his unparalleled mastery of the media.

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But this time, there weren't just a few shouted questions from reporters. Instead, Trump stepped away from the mic amid a cacophony of cheering supporters -- more than 100 of whom separated Trump from the press -- and reporters, some standing on chairs, shouting dozens of questions at the top of our lungs.

"When did you change your mind about Obama being born in the US?" I shouted.

"What took you so long to make this decision?" shouted another reporter.

"Why won't you answer our questions?"

And then, he's gone. Trump had just changed a signature position he's held for years with a few dozen words and no explanation of why he had suddenly changed his mind. And he also notched 51 days since his last news conference.

The moment was emblematic of Trump's treatment of the press throughout the campaign -- particularly in the last 24 hours.

Reporters covering this campaign -- as I have for the last 15 months -- have long grown used to Trump lobbing insults our way, shouts of "scum," "dishonest" and "disgusting" reverberating as thousands of his supporters, many of them snickering at the spectacle, turn toward the press pen, booing. Some of us have even come to expect a call from the would-be-president every so often to hear the candidate gripe about a particular article and shame us as "dishonest."

But on Thursday night, Trump took his mistreatment of the press to new lows, taking the stage at a rally in New Hampshire moments before the traveling press corps' plane touched down in the state, and proceeding to mock us.

"I have really good news for you. I just heard that the press is stuck on their airplane. They can't get there. I love it," Trump said, to his supporters' glee.

We arrived for the last three minutes of his speech -- a circumstance caused by Trump's refusal to travel on the same plane as reporters covering his campaign, defying decades of precedent in the coverage of Democratic and Republican nominees.

Having promised a "major statement," via Twitter, Trump talked up his hotel -- "under budget and ahead of schedule" -- and invited a parade of military veterans to come to the podium and tell the world why they were supporting Trump's presidential bid. The event was no longer about a Republican presidential nominee reversing his position on an issue supported by a fringe slice of America. It was about brave military men embracing this controversial figure, flaws and all.


All the while, the cameras continued to roll, the remarks carried live on cable news in anticipation that Trump would clarify his position on birtherism as he had promised that morning.

It's the kind of free, unfiltered media coverage that every politician dreams of, but few will ever grasp.

Finally, after 28 minutes, Trump lifted the suspense and got to the point. He falsely claimed that his opponent Hillary Clinton "started the birther controversy" in 2008 and stated, matter-of-factly, that "President Barack Obama was born in the United States" -- something Obama proved beyond a shadow of a doubt in 2011 when he released his long-form birth certificate.

He spent more time talking about his hotel than explaining how he was changing his position on the issue that skyrocketed him to national political prominence and earned him his earliest notes of support from the far-right.


Trump laid his media trap the night before when his campaign put out a statement hours after a Washington Post interview published in which Trump declined to disavow his birther views. The interview took place a day earlier, but the campaign waited another day, until 12 hours before the event in Washington, to blast out a statement.
It remains to be seen whether Trump's move helped him. CNN and Fox News cut away at points in the presentation. Networks spent the day talking about Trump's history as a birther.

The Trump campaign had also previously billed a March campaign event as a possible news conference, only for the candidate to not take any questions. The event, which had been scheduled earlier, came just days after his campaign manager was accused of grabbing a reporter.

Before Friday, the campaign's most recent deception came Wednesday when campaign advisers told reporters that Trump would not be releasing results of his latest medical exam on the "Dr. Oz" program. And then Trump did just that, with a reality show-style surprise.

As we filed into the event hall for his rally Friday night, we were still nowhere closer to understanding why Trump had suddenly flip-flopped on birtherism. The campaign had ignored all our requests for comment. We hadn't had an opportunity to prod Trump on the when and why of his sudden change of heart, especially when he had declined to disavow the position just days earlier.

But as we awaited the familiar sound of Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA," a more ominous tune played instead.

It was a song from Broadway's "Les Mis?rables," the words "Les Deplorables" flashing on the screen above the stage, harkening to Clinton's comment about his supporters from earlier this month.

I flicked at my iPhone, and powered on the video recorder.

But moments later, Trump wondered aloud what would happen if Clinton's Secret Service detail were disarmed. And that was the news.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/donald-trump-surreal-friday-press-row/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 09:45:45 PM »
makes sense since birther has pretty much gave obama the presidency. this was also quite embarrassing situation for the republican partyy. he may just cement greater support for himself. i knew this may get addressed but did not expect him to do it this way.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 01:12:14 AM »
this was also quite embarrassing situation for the republican partyy.

good!
most of those swine running the republican party need their ass kicked!
John A-hole Kasich and the rest of them
bunch of lying, corrupt, spineless, treasonous bastards
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 02:50:30 AM »
    That Trump is spanking the press is appealing to the public that feels poorly served by the media.

    That is a lot of us.


      Trump stomping the toes of the Republican archons is also pretty appealing , because a lot of us feel poorly served by them too.

     Trump giving uncivil insult to Hillary Clinton on the other hand.....

     .... eh , that is kinda an improvement on the very civil Doles and McCains and Mitts that do not win.

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2016, 12:18:39 PM »
Trump's argument is infantile.

"I am rubber and Hillary is glue, Bounce off me, stick to Hillary."

Trump did not finish the argument. He was in fact the one who picked it out of obscurity and ran with it to gain free publicity for many months.
At NO POINT did Hillary state that Obam,a was ineligible to be president because of where he was born. She fired two staffers who proposed using this bogus argument.

Trump's last statement was "I have some people investigating in Hawaii, and you would be surprised to learn what they are finding out."

Shortly afterward, the long form birth certificate was made public.

Trump muttered something about how it could be a fake and then shut up about it.

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2016, 04:56:49 PM »


Trump's last statement was "I have some people investigating in Hawaii, and you would be surprised to learn what they are finding out."

Shortly afterward, the long form birth certificate was made public.



Thank you Trump?


What was the hold up in presenting bonifides ?

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 09:42:55 PM »
I actually kniw someone who does not have a birth certificate and thier no doubt she's born here. Its just she was born in her family's kitchen table in Louisiana which folks don't bother getting certificates.

This is not exactly a rare thing and i always wondered how nobody brought up the fact many Americans don't have birth certificates by similiar fashion. With all this uproar about obama

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 02:24:41 PM »
There is no reason to love Trump for being a dick and blathering about Obama's birth certificate for over a year.

There is no reason to love him for doubling down on his dickishness and blaming Hillary for starting it.

Hillary did not start it and fired a couple of staff people who mentioned it.

It is ridiculous for Trump to suggest that somehow Hillary was the cause of his becoming a birther. Why should he admit to being so stupid as to follow her?
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 03:06:01 PM »
Clinton's camp DID START IT.  Regardless of she fired, (not mention did, aka Sidney Bloomenthal) FACT is, it did start with Clinton.   That's just a fact
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 05:13:09 PM »
It is NOT^ a fact and you cannot prove that it is.You are full of shit sirs, everyone knows how full of shit you are.
TRUMP picked it up and harped on it for a year.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2016, 06:18:52 PM »
Yes it is....the whole birther movement started in Clinton's camp....thus some of the lowly firings, but heaven forbid they fire Bloomenthal, with all the dirt he has on them
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2016, 11:42:43 PM »
Actually thats quite clever if clinton actually did this then she a serious expert on the long game. Remember its a crazy scheme that shouldn't work. But it did beautifully. I don't see hiw they expected to go that far though. The guys who fell for it should take the blame. It doesn't help it only focus on obama only.

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 10:56:39 AM »
The birther crap was idiotic and Hillary never once said that Obama was not a natural born citizen. Trump, on the other hand, spend a YEAR blathering on and on about it.

And then supposedly he claims that what, he believed it because Hillary said it first?

Trump is a buffoon and rabble-rouser .
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 01:00:22 PM »
Dr Deflection strikes again

You'll note NO ONE HAS CLAIMED OR EVEN INFERRED THAT CLINTON HERSELF SAID ANYTHING.  The issue is where it started....IT STARTED IN THE CLINTON CAMP.  That's just a fact.

And millions believed it, not just Trump or Clinton's camp.  Now that nearly everyone has accepted Obama as being born here, INCLUDING TRUMP, the only ones still trying to make hay of a non-issue are those in hyper-desperate mode (that being the Clinton camp, and her cool-aide drinking sychophants)
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2016, 06:49:33 PM »
  Frankly I thought it entirely moot when President Obama was sworn in , and inconsequential earlier than that.