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"That is so gay" remove and replace with "that is so Morman"
« on: March 01, 2007, 05:37:36 PM »
"Reasonable people should say, `Let's put a stop to this kind of search-and-destroy mission by school officials for everything that is politically incorrect,'" he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388702/?GT1=9145
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Re: "That is so gay" remove and replacewith "that is so Morman"
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2007, 05:50:50 PM »
<Testifying last week about the 2002 incident, Rice, now 18, said that when she uttered those words, she was not referring to anyone's sexual orientation. She said the phrase meant: "That's so stupid, that's so silly, that's so dumb.">

the problem is she`s still using it as a negative.

and as a teenager in california she would be hard press to claim she didn`t know what the word gay means.

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Re: "That is so gay" remove and replacewith "that is so Morman"
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2007, 08:49:21 PM »
"Reasonable people should say, `Let's put a stop to this kind of search-and-destroy mission by school officials for everything that is politically incorrect,'" he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388702/?GT1=9145


In many cases, the administrations of these schools are acting preemptively.  They want to be seen on top of everything, so to stop the revolving-door parents with lawsuits in their hands.  These pests are usually repeaters in any community, and come largely from the local fundi activist klans.

This all comes from advertising.  Advertising tells kids unless they have $150 Michael Jordan sneakers, they cannot be considered acceptable.  Self esteem to kids, who and because their minds have been polluted by advertising, begins to depend on what they own, what they look like.  All inner components of an autonomous self are inferior to that of image, which is merely taking the dock to seek approval.  If you are completely free of political incorrectness, your programming is near complete.  You are nearly indiscernable from your fellow humans.

To be acceptable, one is required to eschew their own choices and to seek to comply with everything everybody is thinking around you--consider the lock-step, Stepfordian low rung wealthy, or the nearly complete relinguishment of choice and thought by the born-agains, who sign on to be obedient above all else.  If you don't believe that, watch the TV Gantrys and count the frequency of occurance of the concept of 'obedience.'  You cannot be next to Jesus unless you are 'obedient.'

Political correctness comes about because advertisers have taken it upon themselves to suggest to every American what they should eat, what they should watch, what they should look like . . .

Fascists have only to binge on the availability of a populace who have largely lost their autonomous self and are like an ocean of birdlings, mouths up, to be fed instruction.


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Re: "That is so gay" remove and replacewith "that is so Morman"
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 02:46:32 AM »
"Reasonable people should say, `Let's put a stop to this kind of search-and-destroy mission by school officials for everything that is politically incorrect,'" he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388702/?GT1=9145


In many cases, the administrations of these schools are acting preemptively.  They want to be seen on top of everything, so to stop the revolving-door parents with lawsuits in their hands.  These pests are usually repeaters in any community, and come largely from the local fundi activist klans.

This all comes from advertising.  Advertising tells kids unless they have $150 Michael Jordan sneakers, they cannot be considered acceptable.  Self esteem to kids, who and because their minds have been polluted by advertising, begins to depend on what they own, what they look like.  All inner components of an autonomous self are inferior to that of image, which is merely taking the dock to seek approval.  If you are completely free of political incorrectness, your programming is near complete.  You are nearly indiscernable from your fellow humans.

To be acceptable, one is required to eschew their own choices and to seek to comply with everything everybody is thinking around you--consider the lock-step, Stepfordian low rung wealthy, or the nearly complete relinguishment of choice and thought by the born-agains, who sign on to be obedient above all else.  If you don't believe that, watch the TV Gantrys and count the frequency of occurance of the concept of 'obedience.'  You cannot be next to Jesus unless you are 'obedient.'

Political correctness comes about because advertisers have taken it upon themselves to suggest to every American what they should eat, what they should watch, what they should look like . . .

Fascists have only to binge on the availability of a populace who have largely lost their autonomous self and are like an ocean of birdlings, mouths up, to be fed instruction.



Do you think that we fundis are trying to prevent the word "Gay" from being perceived as an insult.

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Re: "That is so gay" remove and replace with "that is so Morman"
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2007, 02:44:15 AM »
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Re: "That is so gay" remove and replace with "that is so Morman"
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2007, 03:39:28 AM »
Jordan Lorence, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal organization, agreed "That's so gay" carries a negative meaning and said he would not want his children to say it. But he said formal discipline is not the answer.

"Reasonable people should say, `Let's put a stop to this kind of search-and-destroy mission by school officials for everything that is politically incorrect,'" he said.

<<Do you think that we fundis are trying to prevent the word "Gay" from being perceived as an insult.>>

I'd like to know what they would do if some kid were hassled and called bad names due to his/her religion. 
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Re: "That is so gay" remove and replace with "that is so Morman"
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2007, 08:43:50 AM »
Did anyone miss the fact that the reason she said "That's so gay" was because she was being hassled about her religion?

The answer to Lanya's question is "nothing."  Unless, of course, the person was a member of a non-Christian faith.

The entire emphasis of this article is on how the Mormon was using a terrible term (which, in fact, is a term currently in vogue.  Several of my daughter's HS friends use it to mean "strange" or "stupid" - including my daughter who is a member of the Gay-Straight Alliance.).  Nobody seems upset that this girl was being dogged out about her faith - to include the use of inaccurate stereotypes. 

It's very typical that two wrongs (which, of course, don't make a right) were committed but only one was punished.  This young girl is being painted as a homophobic "fundi" (the latter of which, of coiurse, she can't be) instead of a kid who was getting teased about her religion and used a common term to defend herself. 

Years ago, my youngest son (who's in college now) was harrassed by someone about his religion.  Among other things, they said that all Mormons were misogynistic because we believe in traditional gender roles.   One thing lead to another and finally he ended up in the office.  He said it was wrong to stereotrype all Mormons.  The principle said "But that's what Mormons are."  He told her "That's like saying all Muslims are terrorists,"  She promptly told him that THAT was an inappropriate comment, because it stereotyped Muslims.  He told her that was his point - Mormons shouldn't be stereotyped any more than Muslims.  "No, it's different."  was her reply. Some religions are, apparently, privileged.  So are some classes of people.  This is a perfect example of special - as opposed to equal - rights for gays.


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Re: "That is so gay" remove and replace with "that is so Morman"
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 02:31:41 PM »
Jordan Lorence, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal organization, agreed "That's so gay" carries a negative meaning and said he would not want his children to say it. But he said formal discipline is not the answer.

"Reasonable people should say, `Let's put a stop to this kind of search-and-destroy mission by school officials for everything that is politically incorrect,'" he said.

<<Do you think that we fundis are trying to prevent the word "Gay" from being perceived as an insult.>>

I'd like to know what they would do if some kid were hassled and called bad names due to his/her religion. 




Most properly, congratulations would be in order. A child with enough courage to be noticed as a Christian is doing it right.

Luke 21

12But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

 13And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

 14Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

 15For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

 16And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

 17And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

 18But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

 19In your patience possess ye your souls.