Author Topic: One down  (Read 541 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

hnumpah

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • You have another think coming. Use it.
    • View Profile
One down
« on: February 14, 2017, 04:59:28 AM »
Steve Holland and John Walcott | WASHINGTON

President Donald Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, resigned late on Monday after revelations that he had discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with the Russian ambassador to the United States before Trump took office and misled Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.

Flynn's resignation came hours after it was reported that the Justice Department had warned the White House weeks ago that Flynn could be vulnerable to blackmail for contacts with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak before Trump took power on Jan. 20.

Flynn's departure was a sobering development in Trump's young presidency, a 24-day period during which his White House has been repeatedly distracted by miscues and internal dramas.

The departure could slow Trump's bid to warm up relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Flynn submitted his resignation hours after Trump, through a spokesman, pointedly declined to publicly back Flynn, saying he was reviewing the situation and talking to Pence.

Flynn had promised Pence he had not discussed U.S. sanctions with the Russians, but transcripts of intercepted communications, described by U.S. officials, showed that the subject had come up in conversations between him and the Russian ambassador.

Such contacts could potentially be in violation of a law banning private citizens from engaging in foreign policy, known as the Logan Act.

Pence had defended Flynn in television interviews and was described by administration officials as upset about being misled.

"Unfortunately, because of the fast pace of events, I inadvertently briefed the vice president-elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian ambassador. I have sincerely apologized to the president and the vice president, and they have accepted my apology," Flynn said in his resignation letter.

Retired General Keith Kellogg, who has been chief of staff of the White House National Security Council, was named the acting national security adviser while Trump determines who should fill the position.

Kellogg, retired General David Petraeus, a former CIA director, and Robert Harward, a former deputy commander of U.S. Central Command, are under consideration for the position, a White House official said. Harward was described by officials as the leading candidate.

A U.S. official confirmed a Washington Post report that Sally Yates, the then-acting U.S. attorney general, told the White House late last month that she believed Flynn had misled them about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador.

She said Flynn might have put himself in a compromising position, possibly leaving himself vulnerable to blackmail, the official said. Yates was later fired for opposing Trump's temporary entry ban for people from seven mostly Muslim nations.

CHANGE LESS LIKELY?

A U.S. official, describing the intercepted communications, said Flynn did not make any promises about lifting the sanctions.

But he did indicate that sanctions imposed by President Barack Obama on Russia for its Ukraine incursion "would not necessarily carry over to an administration seeking to improve relations between the U.S. and Russia," the official said.

Flynn, a retired U.S. Army lieutenant general, was an early supporter of Trump and shares his interest in shaking up the establishment in Washington. He frequently raised eyebrows among Washington's foreign policy establishment for trying to persuade Trump to warm up U.S. relations with Russia.

A U.S. official said Flynn's departure, coupled with Russia's aggression in Ukraine and Syria and Republican congressional opposition to removing sanctions on Russia, removes Trump's most ardent advocate of taking a softer line toward Putin.

Flynn's leaving "may make a significant course change less likely, at least any time soon," the official said.

Another official said Flynn's departure may strengthen the hands of some cabinet secretaries, including Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

However, the second official said, Flynn's exit could also reinforce the power of presidential aides Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller, whom he described as already having the president's ear.

Congressional Democrats expressed alarm at the developments surrounding Flynn and called for a classified briefing by administration officials to explain what had happened.

"We are communicating this request to the Department of Justice and FBI this evening," said Democratic representatives John Conyers of Michigan and Elijah Cummings of Maryland.

U.S. Representative Adam Schiff of California, ranking Democrat on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said Flynn's departure does not end the questions over his contacts with the Russians.

"The Trump administration has yet to be forthcoming about who was aware of Flynn's conversations with the ambassador and whether he was acting on the instructions of the president or any other officials, or with their knowledge," Schiff said.

The committee's chairman, Republican Devin Nunes, thanked Flynn for his service.

"Washington D.C. can be a rough town for honorable people, and Flynn — who has always been a soldier, not a politician —deserves America's gratitude and respect," he said.

(Additional reporting by Emily Stephenson; Editing by Peter Cooney, Robert Birsel)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-idUSKBN15S0BR
"I love WikiLeaks." - Donald Trump, October 2016

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

hnumpah

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2469
  • You have another think coming. Use it.
    • View Profile
Re: One down
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 12:03:51 PM »
An old story and nothing but a link...

Same old tired shit.
"I love WikiLeaks." - Donald Trump, October 2016

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

sirs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26964
    • View Profile
Re: One down
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2017, 12:30:30 PM »
So....how many more to go, H?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

sirs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26964
    • View Profile
Re: One down
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 01:43:20 PM »
IIRC, I don't believe H was as giddy with any of the resignations, during the prior 8 years...some of them pretty significant.  From Van Jones to Tom Daschle to Bill Richardson to Chas Freeman.  I don't recall any Conservatives making a checklist of how many of his nominees or inner had gone "down".  And the Right despised what Obama was doing to this country.  Then again, perhaps a greater degree of tolerance by some than others
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

sirs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26964
    • View Profile
Re: One down
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2017, 03:03:26 PM »
So despite this happens in nearly every administration, to placate the subject matter, and appease H's apparent desire to dump on Trump, it isn't good optics, and it was appropriate Flynn resign.  It was premature for his actions, prior to actually holding a position in any administration, and to add on to it, his being less than forthcoming to VP Pense, who was vouching for him.  Now we wait to see who next the left will villify to merely being nominated for the now vacated position
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
Re: One down
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2017, 04:05:11 PM »
I guess SIRS....
I don't believe hardly anything the globalist/uni-party media says
and I absolutely don't believe the way they "frame" their favorite stories
I actually fear an assassination the most...
the globalist/uni-party have trillions of corrupt money at stake
it will be 365 days a year of attack, attack, attack to try and preserve the status quo
and the globalist have plenty of stooges they will trot out to frame their fake news & fake outrage
so they can keep printing trillions, sending jobs to 3rd world hell-holes, perpetual wars, & screwing the American People

btw - he is just butt-hurt because Trump kicked his ass on election day
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

sirs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26964
    • View Profile
Re: One down
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2017, 06:21:20 PM »
You know what's unfortunate, Tucker Carlson now has his own show, and managed to get guests who think themselves very mainstream or mainstream liberal perhaps, and thru his questioning, demonstrates just how completely unhinged the left has become.  Yes, there are radical elements on the right...let's get that disclaimer out of the way....but presently we're being witness to a massive growth of folks on the left who have no interest in democracy or "accepting the results of the election", as Clinton lectured us about

So, on the show the other night IS a middle grade teacher, Yvette Felarca, who proudly supports violent confrontation to anyone she and her throng perceive as fascists....which of course includes Milo.  She whole heartedly was so impressed with herself on how she and her other folk "shut him down" at Berkeley.  Video shows here and some of her folks literally assaulting a Trump supporter.  In her words, they "have no right to speak".  That he incites.....(and this is priceless).....he insights in HIS supporters/followers acts of violence.  Her violence apparently is justified to stop them before it gets started, despite no actual examples of Milo or Bannon or any of the so-called designated fascists as calling for such violence, or in her words, genocide.

But Tucker's hilighting this overt radical violent-themed hypocrisy wasn't the real trick.  He kept pushing her as to "what end", as in how far was she willing to go, to stop such a perceived level of fascist propaganda.  She couldn't provide a straight answer outside of her claiming the need to bring about more of her folk to "stop it".  You could tell what Tucker was getting at......assasination?  Apparently, that was never ruled out.

Who are the Fascists again??
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Plane

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26941
    • View Profile
Re: One down
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2017, 06:24:26 PM »
  I am not shocked at President Trump firing a staffer.

  Hasn't he been famous for that since years back.

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
Re: One down
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2017, 07:25:37 PM »
You know what's unfortunate, Tucker Carlson now has his own show, and managed to get guests who think themselves very mainstream or mainstream liberal perhaps, and thru his questioning, demonstrates just how completely unhinged the left has become.

You are so right SIRS.
I liked Tucker, but he has really impressed me.
Rising star....quite bright....and destroys guests in a "nice" unassuming way
I'm a big fan
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
Re: One down
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2017, 07:26:34 PM »
Hasn't he been famous for that since years back.

LOL...You're fired!



"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10692
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
Re: One down
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2017, 09:03:25 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987