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Syrian Strike
« on: April 06, 2017, 11:42:06 PM »
These are rough years to be Syrian.

I think it quite possible that todays airstrike will open the storage containers of war gas that might be stored in the stricken airbase.

A big spill of this stuff would not only prove Bashir Assad's guilt, it would make survival in the neighborhood of this airbase very difficult.

Did the Syrians keep much war gas when President Obama gave them an opportunity to get them out of theater?

If they did then they better hope the US has no intelligence on the location, such as flight path of delivering ordinance.

This is more than a little bad news for the Syrian government , especially if they have only half as much war gas as they gave to president Obama. The more of this weapon they have the more they are vulnerable to us .

Because there is not enough Syrian Air Force to deliver the gas to their foe in large enough quantity to get rid of it .

There is plenty of US Navy missile and aircraft to release this stuff , quite close to its origin.

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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 06:32:38 AM »
  Oh!

  I was wrong about something.

  An interesting thing.

    A general has stated that they avoided opening the storage of the chemical weapons.

     This would require that the targeting was done with complete and certain knowledge of the location of these weapons.


       Would someone please bring Mr. Assad some fresh pants?

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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 10:47:23 PM »
http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer5/2017/04/07/7704782/77047321980100640360no.jpg

Satellite pictures reveal the damage to the Syrian base
ISI Company posts satellite images taken 10 hours after the US attack on the Syrian Air Force base; the pictures show the abandoned weapons depots, destroyed fuel depots and a completely destroyed SA6 battery; a source in the Syrian army reveals they were warned prior to the attack.

A source in the Syrian army revealed to the AFP news agency that the Syrian army had received a warning about the American attack a few hours before it was carried out. "We learned that the Americans were about to attack and we took precautionary measures in several military compounds, including the base that was attacked, and we transferred several aircrafts to other locations."
 
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2017, 09:28:51 PM »
still undecided about this
something is not adding up
anytime globalist McCain is happy...makes me suspicious
i generally think we have no business in Syria
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2017, 02:32:57 AM »
Not that it natters to those with TDS, but it should dispel  this ongoing accusatory inferences that Trump & Putin are somehow in cohoots with one another, or that there was some sort of collusion between the Trump campaign & the Russian government
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2017, 01:44:19 PM »
you're certainly right SIRS,

but once the Russian/Trump faux news story blows over,
they will find some other bullshit story to avoid just admitting they got their ass kicked in the election.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3293221/russia-and-iran-say-they-will-respond-to-american-aggression-following-air-strike-in-syria/
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 09:41:10 PM »
Damn it I must apologize
Today i was given a leaflet about trump and putin alliance and I didnt take a picture.
Damn it we would of gotten a laugh about it. It involved syria also
Im really sorry

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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 10:58:43 PM »
You're forgiven......  this time     ;)
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2017, 05:38:50 AM »
The cruel hypocrisy of Trump’s sudden concern for Syrian children
Updated by Jessica Goudeau, Vox.Com, Apr 11, 2017, 3:42pm EDT

“No child of God should ever suffer such horror.”

That was the critical line in Donald Trump’s statement explaining his decision to bomb a Syrian airbase in response to the April 4 chemical attackin Khan Sheikhoun, Syria.

I couldn’t agree more with that sentence. In this view, at least, Trump is right: No child should ever endure such horror.

I began working with refugees in Austin, Texas, in 2007, and in a decade of being friends with, supporting, and interviewing refugees from dozens of countries around the world, I have heard countless stories of atrocities. None compare to the horror happening in Syria.

I wept when I saw the latest viral picture of the war in Syria, the one of Abdel Hameed Alyousef holding his twin toddlers. The twins look like the Syrian children who came over to my house for dinner a few weeks ago and played in my daughters’ playroom. No wonder their parents, who are newly resettled refugees in Austin, love them fiercely — all children are precious, but not all children face the horrifying dangers that threaten Syria’s babies.

Reportedly, pictures like that are one of the reasons Trump has suddenly reversed his Syrian policy. If it is genuine, I support Donald Trump’s turn toward the children of Syria.

But I am deeply skeptical. After all, this is the man who said about Syrian refugee children: “I can look in their faces and say ‘You can't come.’ I'll look them in the face.” This is a man who is fighting in court to keep Syrian refugees out of the United States.

If Donald Trump’s sudden reversal in rhetoric and policy is a true change of heart toward Syrian civilians, who are facing one of the greatest humanitarian crises in the history of the world, there will be one clear indicator: whether he reverses his travel ban. Until then, his words of concern for the children of Syria will remain just that: words.

“The war in Syria is a war against children”

No one should suffer nerve agent attacks like the recent one in Khan Sheikhoun, or in 2013 in Ghouta.

As Trump said of the most recent attack, “Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women, and children. It was a slow and brutal death for so many — even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack.”

There have also been chlorine gas attacks in other Syrian cities like Damascus, Aleppo, and Homs. A report by Syrian American Medical Society stated there were 161 documented chemical attacks and 133 unverified ones against civilians in Syria between 2011 and 2016; more have occurred since that report came out. In all, more than 1,500 Syrian civilians have been killed and more than 15,000 have sustained injuries by chemical weapons attacks.

Chemical weapons are just some of the many ways Syrian president Bashar al-Assad kills children in his country. From my former refugee friends, I have heard of the devious ways the government attacks civilians with no regard for children: In one city, government forces positioned missile launchers in the soccer fields so they could better reach the civilian neighborhoods. In a rural part of the country, one woman had her weeks-old baby in the car with her when her husband ran over a landmine; the baby lived, but has a badly burned body.

Another family tells the story of how, after their home was bombed, they moved to a relative’s house, which was then bombed, and then they went to a third house of friends, which was also bombed. The children barely escaped with their lives each time. And these are just a handful of the atrocities — there are more than 5 million Syrians seeking asylum outside of their country and more than 6 million who are internally displaced.

I worked with a woman who used the pseudonym Nadia Al Moualem to write a first-person piece for Vox. In our interview, she made an offhand comment that haunts me: The war in Syria is a war against children. She and her husband named many ways children had been targeted by the Assad regime: The revolution started in March 2011 when people in Daraa protested the brutal torture of a group of school boys by the military police. A few months later, photos of the tortured body an apple-cheeked boy named Hamza Al-Khatib helped unite anti-government protests to full-on revolution.

And it’s not just Assad’s troops: ISIS has also been documented torturing children in Syria. There are too many instances to recount. Children are often killed in the indiscriminate bombing by government forces; children left alive are so miserable, some beg to die. The Twitter account of Bana Alabed, a 7-year-old Syrian girl living in Aleppo, held the riveted attention of the world while her government bombed her city.

And the stories of displaced Syrian children are just as grim, as witnessed by pictures of the body of Aylan Kurdi the 3-year-old boy who drowned near Turkey while his family desperately tried to find a place where they could be safe. Or Omran Daqneesh, the 5-year-old boy whose shell-shocked expression stunned the world after Syrian forces bombed his home in Aleppo.

If Trump cares so much about Syrian children, will he stop fighting for his refugee ban?

Since he announced his bid for the presidency, I have watched in disbelief and frustration at the rhetoric and policies Donald Trump has championed against refugees. I have wanted to say to Trump and other politicians: Don’t you know who refugees are? Don’t you realize they are the victims, not the perpetrators, of terrorism and war? Don’t you understand that any parent would make the same decisions to protect their children?

One Syrian-American told me: “After Trump’s decision to block Syrian refugees from resettling in the US, many of those refugees, who went through months and sometimes years of vetting after applying to come to the US, have been sent back to danger and death due to his policies. And now he wants to help the Syrian civilians? The same ones who are being denied refuge to the US? It is very hypocritical.”

Maybe Trump is that mercurial in his views on Syrian civilians, many of whom have had to become asylum-seekers and refugees; his foreign policy certainly seems impulsive. The debate about the efficacy of the Trump administration firing Tomahawk missiles into Syria after the chemical weapons attack in Khan Sheikhoun is ongoing.

I spoke with a Syrian-American man who works closely with the refugee community in Texas, and his view summarizes what many in that community are saying: The strike “is yet another example of a slap on the hand whenever Assad massacres Syrians.” While the rest of the world tries to decide what Trump means and what he’s going to do next, he says, “humanity goes to waste and Syrian lives are destroyed.”

Meanwhile, Trump lawyers filed court documents on Friday, the day after his statement in defense of Syrian children, that continued the fight to reinstate the travel ban that keeps Syrian refugees out of our country. Trump’s hypocrisy is just one more example of how the world has failed the children of Syria.

Allowing more Syrian refugees, who have already gone through the extensive vetting process, entry to the United States is one of many solutions to the suffering Syrians are facing; it impacts a very small percentage of the millions of displaced Syrians. But it would indicate a true policy shift by the Trump administration and show that the children of Syria are more than a pawn in Trump’s confusing, capricious foreign policy.
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2017, 11:00:17 AM »
If Trump cares so much about Syrian children, will he stop fighting for his refugee ban?

Ridiculous!

That's like saying you cant support helping the world's poor without wanting to bring them all here.

It was funny watching Hillary spout this same non-sense over the weekend.

Hey Hillary if you care so much about children, will you stop fighting for abortion?

btw....we have no business in Syria....Trump should not let the "globalist constant war" parties convince him otherwise.
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2017, 01:10:29 PM »
Bingo......its apples and oranges.  As has already been addressed.....in copious amounts, Those refugees will get far more support and services, with far less of our tax dollars, if we direct them to organizations and agencies in the region
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2017, 11:21:28 PM »
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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2017, 07:06:45 PM »
False Flag ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXuV64hp4dk
That is food for thought , but it is too convoluted to get past Occam's razor.

Once you accept a highly complex explanation with little evidence , you might as well make it up as you go along.


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Re: Syrian Strike
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2017, 07:10:27 PM »
The cruel hypocrisy of Trump’s sudden concern for Syrian children
Updated by Jessica Goudeau, Vox.Com, Apr 11, 2017, 3:42pm EDT

“No child of God should ever suffer such horror.”

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There have also been chlorine gas attacks in other Syrian cities like Damascus, Aleppo, and Homs. A report by Syrian American Medical Society stated there were 161 documented chemical attacks and 133 unverified ones against civilians in Syria between 2011 and 2016; more have occurred since that report came out. In all, more than 1,500 Syrian civilians have been killed and more than 15,000 have sustained injuries by chemical weapons attacks...................................

Looks like just as serious an accusation on President Obama as on President Trump.




Is there any potential to truly evacuate the war zone?

I do favor plans that facilitate the movement of refugees away from the danger, but nothing like that is an answer by itself.