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Europe's New Young Generation of Losers
« on: March 07, 2007, 10:46:44 AM »
Europe's New Young Generation of Losers
The continent's boomers are retiring, leaving a bitter legacy for the generation that comes next, which increasingly feels locked out of the European dream.
By William Underhill and Tracy McNicoll
Newsweek International

March 12, 2007 issue - It's election time in France, and the promises are flowing fast. If you believe the candidates, young voters are in line for a fat slice of state largesse, no matter who wins the vote. On offer from Nicolas Sarkozy, the right's presidential candidate: interest-free loans for young entrepreneurs and a €300-a-month allowance for training. Not to be outbid, his rival, meanwhile, the Socialists' Ségolène Royal, has pledged more housing, €10,000 loans and guaranteed jobs or training after six months of unemployment. As Royal told a party rally last week: "As a mother, I want for all children born and raised in France what I wanted for my own children."

They now seem unlikely to get it. Young adults in France, like their contemporaries across Europe, face a slew of problems never experienced by their middle-aged leaders. Consider: a 30-year-old Frenchman earned 15 percent less than a 50-year-old in 1975; now he earns 40 percent less. Over the same period, the number of graduates unemployed two years after college has risen from 6 percent to 25 percent, even if they typically have better degrees. Thirty-year-olds in 2001 were saving 9 percent of their incomes, down from 18 percent just six years before. Young people who snag stable jobs, gain access to credit and buy homes later in life are particularly angry that the older generations continue to rack up public debts for which they will get the bill. And they are very skeptical of the pledges of boomer-generation politicians. "If all this were financially possible, it would have been done long ago," says Clément Pitton, the 23-year-old leader of Impulsion Concorde, which recently circulated a petition declaring "We will not pay your debt."

Pitton's sentiments are increasingly shared by the children of Europe's baby boomers, a generation sometimes called the baby losers. Not only will they be forced to pick up the tab for a welfare system that offers far more to the elderly than to the young, but they will be forced to do so with less: Europe's economy remains skewed in favor of the old and its politicians have been shy about pushing painful reforms that might correct the balance. No wonder one recent poll in France showed that only 5 percent believed young people had a better chance of succeeding than their parents. Europe, it seems, is increasingly split—not along class or racial lines, but between its young and its old.

As the rift grows so does awareness. Just browse the media or visit the bookstores. In France, the shelves groan with works bemoaning the "Génération Précaire"—the Precarious Generation. Two boomer authors warned in a book released this December, "Our Children Will Hate Us." In Britain, think tanks turn out reports on "Maggie's Children"—the unfortunates born in the affluent Thatcher years—or the IPOD Generation: the newcomers to the job market who find themselves "Insecure, Pressured, Overtaxed and Debt-Ridden."

Small wonder Europe's young are losing faith in their leaders. In a recent report for the Policy Exchange think tank, David Willetts, the Conservative Party's education spokesman, concluded, "A young person could be forgiven for thinking [there's] a conspiracy by the middle-aged against the young." There may not be any concerted plot, but it's clear who's to blame for today's sorry situation: the boomers. The sunlit decades of postwar prosperity saw the creation of generous welfare states across Europe. Dynamic economies assured the boomers secure employment (Germans still like to speak of "job owners") and hefty pensions on retirement. But this good fortune came at a price. The same labor rules that protect the jobs of the middle-aged shut out the young. And dwindling birthrates mean there will soon be fewer workers to support the retirees.

So will the boomers renounce—or at least share—their benefits? Unlikely, says leading French sociologist Louis Chauvel. "The baby boomers didn't [intend] to do this to young people, but I don't see a willingness to get them out of the situation either." Such intransigence looks even more unfair given the disparities in wealth and lifestyle. The boomers are living it up; many have used their generous pensions to opt out of the labor market altogether. Only 30 percent of Belgians older than 55 still work, for example. A report by the London-based think tank Reform put the issue plainly. "People over 50 are developing the lifestyles of teenagers."


As they slack off, their children's woes are multiplying. Germans now talk of "Generation Intern" as well-educated graduates increasingly accept unpaid jobs in the quest for elusive permanent posts. Such challenges breed despair. Ask Daniel Knapp. Born in Germany, he speaks four languages fluently and holds a master's degree from the London School of Economics. But he's spent the last six months chasing jobs in London, Berlin and Brussels —unsuccessfully. "I feel as if I'm simply draining my family's resources. It seems my degrees only qualify me for further education but not really a job."

Some countries have so far avoided the malaise. In Ireland, the birthrate peaked late and the strong economy still provides jobs for all. In fact, "this is the first generation to have grown up in Ireland with no question that they would be able to find a job in the country," says Tony Fahey of the Economic and Social Research Institute in Dublin. Ditto for Spain, where everyone is enjoying the new prosperity and a welfare system vastly expanded since the end of the Franco regime. "[The young here] don't live worse than their parents; in fact they live much better," says Federico Steinberg, an economist at the Autonomous University of Madrid.

But even the happy Irish and Spanish share a housing problem. Across the continent, spiraling property prices and poor job prospects are conspiring to keep youngsters living at home. According to the Italian Institute of Social Medicine, 45 percent of the country's 30- to 34-year-olds still sleep in their old beds and enjoy Mama's home cooking. In France, the proportion of 24-year-olds now living with their parents has almost doubled since 1975, to 65 percent. Even in the U.K., with its enviable record of job creation, the average age of the first-time home buyer has climbed from 26 in 1976 to 34 today. Property prices are now eight times higher than the median earnings of the ordinary twentysomething.

This great homecoming—by what the press in Britain has dubbed the "Boomerang Generation"—points to one more troubling shift. Lacking well-paid jobs, the young have been thrown back on the generosity of their parents. That's fine for the middle class, but much worse for the poor. "Progress was once produced by the state; now it comes from family solidarity," says 28-year-old Aurore Wanlin of London's Centre for European Reform. But don't look to the politicians for action. Sure, pension reform is close to the top of most national agendas. Last week the Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi declared, "Italy should feel a moral duty to ... prevent an entire generation from facing life without certainties."

But money for the young will have to come from somewhere, and tinkering with boomers' privileges presents a tricky political challenge. After all, their numbers are increasing and so is their clout. They're overrepresented in government: the average age of the British M.P. is now over 50, up two years since Labour came to power in 1997, and in 2002, only 15 percent of the members in France's lower house of Parliament was under 45. Boomers are also better organized. And, says John Curtice of the University of Strathclyde in Scotland, "Older people are a popular cause and are generally regarded as a deserving group."

Ironically, Europe's young don't seem to favor cutting their parents' benefits; they want the same treatment. Last year French youths mobbed the streets to protest a new bill that aimed to create more employment but offered less security; the proposal was defeated. Says Wanlin: "Their aspiration is to get the same protection for themselves." If the economics don't work out, that's a problem for the politicians—not the young. Indeed, even some boomers recognize the flaws in the status quo. "The worst thing," says French author and former political advisor Bernard Spitz, "would be if we lived contentedly with our debts and our early retirements, telling ourselves the young will pay, just like we told ourselves 'Germany will pay' after the Treaty of Versailles." As Europe has learned before, a bad peace only leads to more war—even between generations.

With Jacopo Barigazzi in Milan and Kenzie Burchell in London


URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17435873/site/newsweek/

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Re: Europe's New Young Generation of Losers
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 11:38:42 AM »
They need communism.  Communism will provide jobs and security for all.  Whatever mistakes were made in the U.S.S.R. can be analyzed and avoided.  The primary mistake might have been lack of accountability.  I think Castro resolved that by giving detailed annual reports to the nation.  Hopefully the French Communist Party will be reviewing the situation.  A free press might help but if they publish lies, they must be obliged to carry the refutation of their lies more prominently than the original lie.  Maybe that's the future for Europe - - communism.  Cool.

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 04:34:40 PM »
They need communism.  Communism will provide jobs and security for all.  Whatever mistakes were made in the U.S.S.R. can be analyzed and avoided.  The primary mistake might have been lack of accountability.  I think Castro resolved that by giving detailed annual reports to the nation.  Hopefully the French Communist Party will be reviewing the situation.  A free press might help but if they publish lies, they must be obliged to carry the refutation of their lies more prominently than the original lie.  Maybe that's the future for Europe - - communism.  Cool.


   I thought the Soviet Unions mistake was Communism.

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 05:09:01 PM »
When I was in Paris in 2003, I saw a terrific political poster.
It said, in French (of course):

 Communism!  Try it again for the first time!

An American slogan, used with an unAmerican political movement! Gotta love it!

I would say that what they need would be some form of Socialism.
A one-party state of any description is sure to become corrupt.

Observe the Roman Catholic Church: even God cannot save it from corruption.
Leaders who have no dissent to deal with come to regard themselves as perfect (if they are stupid) or simply become cynical (if they are smart).

This is a typical article written from an American perspective, and about on a par with European articles that define whatever is perceived to be wrong with the US as being a result of Texans and cowboys.

High housing prices are a direct result of too much money in the society and inflation, both of which are endemic with western capitalism.

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 07:46:44 PM »
 

High housing prices are a direct result of too much money in the society and inflation, both of which are endemic with western capitalism.

 


Increaseing scarcity of Wood and land make housing grow more expensive even if a Socialist Government is in place to declare that the tide shall not come in.

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2007, 07:57:09 PM »
<<When I was in Paris in 2003, I saw a terrific political poster.
It said, in French (of course):

<< Communism!  Try it again for the first time!>>

Brilliant.  The French are epigrammatic geniuses in all things, but especially all things political.  But the Americans are pretty good at non-political epigrams:  Beer!  It's not only for breakfast.  or, If it walks out of the refrigerator, let it go.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 09:03:17 PM »
Increaseing scarcity of Wood and land make housing grow more expensive even if a Socialist Government is in place to declare that the tide shall not come in.

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The population of Europe is not growing nearly as fast as that of the US. Most houses have already been built, and require no increase in either land nor wood. The population is below replacement levels in many countries.

Wood is hardly scarce in Europe. It is a  resource that replenishes itself. Most European houses are not built of wood, anyway. Most are cement, and Europeans do not tear down one house to build another. A much greater percentage of Europeans live in multistory buildings, which require far less land than an American suburban ranch house development.

Here in Miami, the price of houses has more than doubled in the last six years. This is not due to scarcity of houses, but to an overabundance of money flowing in from outside the country, notably Colombia, Venezuela and Mexico.

An increase of 10% in the price of cement should not cause a 100% rise in the price of housing.

As I said, real estate "Booms" are the result of an abundance of money being invested in real estate. These booms generally only benefit a very few people at the expense of nearly everyone else. It is a problem endemic to capitalism of the sort prevalent in the US and the UK and Japan.

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 05:44:58 PM »

They need communism.  Communism will provide jobs and security for all. [...] Hopefully the French Communist Party will be reviewing the situation.


Your undying and naively optimistic faith in communism is on the one hand admirable and on the other hand, really, really funny. And with intent to burst your bubble, things are not looking so good for Ségolène Royal, the candidate for the French Socialist Party. A man named François Bayrou seems to be causing quite a stir over there. The Socialists and the Gaullists are both trying to scramble to defuse his campaign. I don't know much about his politics, but he has said straight out, "The Socialist model doesn't work."
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 07:04:05 PM »
<<Your undying and naively optimistic faith in communism is on the one hand admirable and on the other hand, really, really funny. >>

It's true that I will always love communism but I wouldn't say that my love for it is naive in any way.  They had serious unresoved problems with accountability that even Fidel Castro may not have been able to solve.  But the basic idea is sound, and it is obviously the next evolutionary step - - from greed and private interest to cooperation and the common interest.  Over time, that is inevitable.  The only questions are how? and when?  And I don't minimize those questions, either.  THAT would be naive.

<<And with intent to burst your bubble, things are not looking so good for Ségolène Royal . . . >>

Doesn't burst MY bubble.   She's another "socialist" who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 11:22:14 PM »
Actually, the Disciples practiced a form of communism. Did you know that?

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 11:36:05 PM »
<<Actually, the Disciples practiced a form of communism. Did you know that?>>

I've heard it said.  But they had yet to discover the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.

But more seriously, Professor, you really should read "Christ Recrucified" by Nikos Kazantzakis, one of the greatest Greek writers of all time.  The idea of the novel is that Jesus comes back to a little Greek village under the Ottoman Empire and ultimately the priests and the merchants conspire to crucify the poor guy all over again.   Excellent book, IMHO. 

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2007, 03:09:24 AM »

They had serious unresoved problems with accountability that even Fidel Castro may not have been able to solve.  But the basic idea is sound, and it is obviously the next evolutionary step - - from greed and private interest to cooperation and the common interest.  Over time, that is inevitable.


I'm not sure which seems more naive to me, your faith that next time will be different, or that communism is necessarily the path of cooperation and common interest, or that somehow mankind is going to evolve into a communist utopia.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2007, 07:22:04 AM »
I'm not sure which seems more naive to me, your faith that next time will be different, or that communism is necessarily the path of cooperation and common interest, or that somehow mankind is going to evolve into a communist utopia.

I'm sure he also believes the PETA claims that the world would be a better place if humans all died off. After all, they use the same argument - that people should give up opposing them because their cause is inevitable.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2007, 08:09:16 AM »
I'm not sure which seems more naive to me, your faith that next time will be different, or that communism is necessarily the path of cooperation and common interest, or that somehow mankind is going to evolve into a communist utopia.

I'm sure he also believes the PETA claims that the world would be a better place if humans all died off. After all, they use the same argument - that people should give up opposing them because their cause is inevitable.

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Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed will allow Earth's biosphere to return to good health. Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense.

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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2007, 09:27:37 AM »
The Socialists and the Gaullists are both trying to scramble to defuse his campaign. I don't know much about his politics, but he has said straight out, "The Socialist model doesn't work."
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Well, that settles it, doesn't it?

Some dude you know nothing about has said something you appear to agree with, and that just cinches it for all time.


Dude, Marx was RIGHT about how capitalism is a race to the bottom. Observe how manufacturing has been fleeing to the bottom, (i.e. underdeveloped nations, among them China) for the past 15 years or so. It is ironic that the place to which manufacturing jobs are fleeing purports to be Communist, but that is so effuing bloody OBVIOUS that anyone can see it.

Marx was less right about the cure than the diagnosis.

He was entirely wrong about how any human society will ever find a perfect and eternal solution: there are too many variables for that: the birthrate, dwindling natural resources, changing weather patterns and religious nutballs, just to name a few.
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