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« on: April 09, 2007, 11:13:27 PM »
Justifiable or over=reaction?

MSNBC, CBS Radio suspend Imus show

But charity event will air as scheduled Thursday and Friday
The Associated Press
Updated: 9:43 p.m. ET April 9, 2007
NEW YORK - After a career of cranky insults, radio star Don Imus was fighting for his job Monday following one joke that by his own admission went “way too far.”

CBS Radio and MSNBC both said they were suspending Imus’ morning talk show for two weeks following his reference last week to members of the Rutgers women’s basketball team as “nappy-headed hos.”

(MSNBC.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal.)

The suspension begins next Monday.

While CBS made its announcement without comment, MSNBC said Imus’ regret at making the inappropriate comment and his stated dedication to changing the show’s discourse made it believe this was the appropriate response.

“Our future relationship with Imus is contingent on his ability to live up to his word,” the network said. MSNBC simulcasts his radio program weekday mornings.

Imus continued to apologize Monday, both on his show and on a syndicated radio program hosted by the Rev. Al Sharpton, who is among several black leaders demanding his ouster.

Both MSNBC and CBS Radio said they would go ahead and air the previously scheduled Imus radiothon in support of the Tomorrow's Children's Fund, the CJ Foundation for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome research and the Imus Ranch planned for Thursday and Friday.

Apologies continue
Imus could be in real danger if the outcry causes advertisers to shy away from him, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio.

“Everyone is on tenterhooks waiting to see whether it grows and whether the protest gets picked up more broadly,” Taylor said.

Imus isn’t the most popular radio talk show host — the trade publication Talkers ranks him the 14th most influential — but his audience is heavy on the political and media elite that advertisers pay a premium to reach. Authors, journalists and politicians are frequent guests — and targets for insults.

He has urged critics to recognize that his show is a comedy that spreads insults broadly. Imus or his cast have called Colin Powell a “sniffling weasel,” New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson a “fat sissy” and referred to Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado, an American Indian, as “the guy from ‘F Troop.”’ He and his colleagues also called the New York Knicks a group of “chest-thumping pimps.”

Yet, over the years, Imus' success was often a result of his caustic on-air barbs.

"That Imus is in trouble for being politically incorrect is certainly not new," said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio. "He's lived his life in and out of trouble ... This is something CBS will be watching very carefully."


Recent controversies involving Imus focused on a member of his morning team, Sid Rosenberg, who was fired two years ago after a particularly vile crack about cancer-stricken singer Kylie Minogue. Prior to that, a racially tinged comment by Rosenberg about Venus and Serena Williams stirred another controversy.

But the NABJ cited two other incidents involving Imus himself: the host's insults toward a pair of black journalists. Imus has called PBS' Gwen Ifill a "cleaning lady" and described William Rhoden of The New York Times as "a quota hire," the group said.


On Sharpton’s program Monday, Imus said that “our agenda is to be funny and sometimes we go too far. And this time we went way too far.”


The Rutgers comment has struck a chord, in part, because it was aimed at a group of young women at the pinnacle of athletic success. It also came in a different public atmosphere following the Michael Richards and Mel Gibson incidents, said Eric Deggans, columnist for the St. Petersburg Times and chairman of the media monitoring committee of the National Association of Black Journalists, which also wants Imus canned.

“This may be the first time where he’s done something like this in the YouTube era,” Deggans said. Viewers can quickly see clips of Imus’ remarks, not allowing him to redefine their context, he said.

On his show Monday, Imus called himself “a good person” who made a bad mistake.

“Here’s what I’ve learned: that you can’t make fun of everybody, because some people don’t deserve it,” he said. “And because the climate on this program has been what it’s been for 30 years doesn’t mean that it has to be that way for the next five years or whatever because that has to change, and I understand that.”

Future of show unknown
Imus’ radio show originates from WFAN in New York City and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both of which are managed by CBS. CBS Radio just replaced chief executive Joel Hollander with Dan Mason. With Imus’ radio show reaching an estimated 2.5 million people a week, his future could conceivably be decided by CBS chief Leslie Moonves.

The show is simulcast daily on MSNBC, where it reached an estimated 361,000 viewers in the first three months of the year, up 39 percent from last year. That’s the best competitive position it has ever achieved against CNN (372,000 viewers).

“He will survive it if he stops apologizing so much,” said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers. Imus clearly seems under corporate pressure to make amends, but he’s nearly reached the point where he is alienating the fans who appreciate his grumpy outrageousness.

Even if he were to be fired, he’s likely to land elsewhere in radio, Harrison said.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson and about 50 people marched Monday outside Chicago’s NBC tower to protest Imus’ comments. He said MSNBC should abandon Imus and MSNBC should hire more black pundits.

Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP board of directors, said it is “past time his employers took him off the air.”

“As long as an audience is attracted to his bigotry and politicians and pundits tolerate his racism and chauvinism to promote themselves, Don Imus will continue to be a serial apologist for prejudice,” Bond said.

Imus was mostly contrite in his appearance with Sharpton, although the activist did not change his opinion that Imus should lose his job. At one point Imus seemed incredulous at Sharpton’s suggestion that he might walk away from the incident unscathed.

“Unscathed?” Imus said. “How do you think I’m unscathed by this? Don’t you think I’m humiliated?”

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17999196/


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Re: Imus
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2007, 12:16:34 AM »
There are some young women from my sons' high school going to college on basketball scholarships. They're  black, they're sweet girls, straight-A students and I've known them since they were in kindergarten, some of them.  It just made me sick to hear Imus say that.   Those girls are someone's daughters.   
It is simply not ok to say what he did.   I bet he'll be fine, though.  He's rich, he's not hurting, no matter if he is let go. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 12:22:19 AM »
Guess they didn't get his "nuance".
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 12:44:50 AM »
Or perhaps we just need to impliment the fairness doctrine, in order for another "group" to be equally insulted
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 10:14:38 AM »
Too bad he didn't call black U.S. servicewomen fighting in Iraq a bunch of nappy-haired hos, then his ass would be grass and none of his right-wing dingbat defenders would have a word to say against it.

Of course he should have the freedom to insult anyone he likes.  Whether he gets the corporate support necessary to ensure that his verbal diarrhoea reaches the ears of millions is the interesting question, because it shows where the power really lies in America, and how much of a concern racism really is to the power-holders.

I still have to wonder, though, if this isn't a good time for a singing group or even a commercial basketball team to style themselves "The Nappy-Headed Hos?"  Where there's a buck to be made . . .   I just hope that prick Imus doesn't come in for any of the royalties.

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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2007, 11:16:14 AM »
Too bad he didn't call black U.S. servicewomen fighting in Iraq a bunch of nappy-haired hos, then his ass would be grass and none of his right-wing dingbat defenders would have a word to say against it.

Speaking of more BS accusations, who the hell's defending him??
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2007, 12:31:07 PM »
Justifiable.

He and others like him make their fortune by being racist and biggoted nimrods, so he gets a small dose of his own medicine.

It is unfortunate that decent people aren't listened to a quarter as much as "shock" radio hosts.
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2007, 02:09:26 PM »
wow
howard stern been saying worst stuff on regular radio for decades.
only once did he apoligies and that was a really really bad comment on a dead singer-selena
the few times I hear him he just sounds boring.
ther voice is not exactly a radio voice.
howard has a good voice
rush has a good voice
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2007, 04:39:18 PM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17999196/page/2/   --> developments

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3226997/  - -->Attempts at salvage

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=3763   ---> Kerry Interview
http://kerryblog.blogspot.com/2006_07_01_archive.html  ---> Kerry Interview

http://pandagon.net/2007/04/06/don-imus-rutgers-womens-basketball-team-nappy-headed-hos/   ---> Hair and Boortz connection

 
http://archives.cjr.org/year/00/2/nobile.asp  --->History

http://www.langston.com/Fun_People/1996/1996APF.html   ----> history , plays for the president



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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2007, 04:49:55 PM »
Howard Stern to Imus: 'Say F**k You!'

Shock jock Howard Stern is no fan of embattled Don Imus, but he said he knows what his fellow talk show host should have told critics: "F**k you.”

"He's apologizing like a guy who got his first broadcasting job,” Stern told his Sirius Satellite Radio audience after Imus apologized for his derogatory comment about the Rutgers women’s basketball team.

"He should have said, "F**k you, it’s a joke.”

Former radio host Bob Grant – no stranger to controversy – also weighed in on the Imus flap, according to the New York Daily News.

Grant was fired from New York radio powerhouse WABC over a remark he made about Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, who was aboard a plane that crashed in Croatia in 1996. Grant told a caller: "My hunch is [Brown] is the one survivor. Maybe it’s because at heart I’m a pessimist.” After Brown was found dead, Grant’s WABC contract was terminated.

"Everything doesn’t come out the way you want,” he said regarding Imus’ comment.

"There were many times when I’d be going home and say to myself, ‘What the hell did I say that for?’ But that’s the pace you work at. That’s what people don’t take into account.”

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/4/10/112340.shtml?s=rss

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2007, 05:28:43 PM »
All these people are VERY INAPPROPRIATE and I do not listen to them becuase of that fact. But, due to this FACT, why should anyone be surprised and why should he apologize? This is his forte, his calling sign.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2007, 06:37:00 PM »
<<Speaking of more BS accusations, who the hell's defending him??>>

Beats me.  Did this guy call down unanimous condemnation on his head?  NOBODY wants to stick up for him?  Coulter?  Rush?  Michelle Malkin?  Lieberman? (just kidding, Joe)

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2007, 09:02:32 PM »
<<Speaking of more BS accusations, who the hell's defending him??>>

Beats me.  Did this guy call down unanimous condemnation on his head? 

Lack of universal condemnation that you haven't heard of is "defense"?  Try again


NOBODY wants to stick up for him?  Coulter?  Rush?  Michelle Malkin?  Lieberman? (just kidding, Joe)

Stick up for what?  His right to be an idiot?  He has an absolute right to be a moron, and to say blatantly stupid, and borderline racist comments.  And the radio network has every right to pull him off the air, if they believe he went too far.  Funny thing though, I hear pathetically worse garbage from LW pundits & talk show hosts all the time.  Funny how they're not being made to take the perp walk that Imus is being made to make
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2007, 09:37:13 PM »
<<Funny thing though, I hear pathetically worse garbage from LW pundits & talk show hosts all the time.  Funny how they're not being made to take the perp walk that Imus is being made to make>>

LMFAO.  Looks like I don't have to look very far for Imus' defenders after all.

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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2007, 11:34:16 PM »
<<Funny thing though, I hear pathetically worse garbage from LW pundits & talk show hosts all the time.  Funny how they're not being made to take the perp walk that Imus is being made to make>>

LMFAO.  Looks like I don't have to look very far for Imus' defenders after all.

Ohh.  Who so then?  Oh wait, you think my highlighting a blatant hypocritical double standard is analogus to defending Imus?  Oh yea, I forgot, it's Tee-leaf logic.      ::)
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