Immunity for Goodling?

[Lanya]

House Panel to Vote on Immunity for Goodling
By Paul Kiel - April 17, 2007, 11:21 AM

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The House Judiciary Committee will meet tomorrow morning in order to vote on whether to offer former Justice Department official Monica Goodling immunity to prosecution. Goodling had indicated that she would plead the Fifth rather than testify.

Says Chairman John Conyers (D-MI):

    "As the White House Liaison in the Department while the US Attorney firings were planned and carried out, Ms. Goodling clearly has much to contribute to the Committee's understanding of the surrounding circumstances... I am hopeful we can approve immunity so that we can schedule her to testify as soon as possible and begin to clear up the many inconsistencies and gaps surrounding this matter."
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003031.php

[Plane]

Is such immunity carte blanche?

I don't know for sure buyt I thoughtthat such immunity needed to be connected to a certain crime or investigation.


For what crime is she to be potentially immune?

[Amianthus]

I don't know for sure buyt I thoughtthat such immunity needed to be connected to a certain crime or investigation.

There is also "use immunity" in which she is promised that none of her testimony - or any evidence derived from her testimony - can be used against her, for any crime.

[Lanya]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=apDjuW7Anx6o&refer=home

This says they are talking about offering her limited immunity.

[Plane]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=apDjuW7Anx6o&refer=home

This says they are talking about offering her limited immunity.

If Libbey had held out for this there would have been no crime at all for him.

[hnumpah]

For what crime is she to be potentially immune?

Probably the one she claims she might potentially incriminate herself in; immunity removes the need to plead the fifth, thus making it easier to force her to testify, or be held in contempt.

[Plane]

For what crime is she to be potentially immune?

Probably the one she claims she might potentially incriminate herself in; immunity removes the need to plead the fifth, thus making it easier to force her to testify, or be held in contempt.

Very likely she is in the same predicament Libbey was in a few months ago , haveing no idea what crime may be discovered in her testimony.

For Libbey the only crime there was, was the testimony itself.

[hnumpah]

For Libbey the only crime there was, was the testimony itself.

Moral: Tell the truth. Especially under oath, 'cuz if you don't, then it's a crime.

[Plane]

For Libbey the only crime there was, was the testimony itself.

Moral: Tell the truth. Especially under oath, 'cuz if you don't, then it's a crime.

Tell me the truth , who were you talking to at this date last year , what did he tell you? What did you tell him? Was this occasion the first time or the second time that you had heard or spoken this information?

Don't worry if you get it wrong , I don't intend to jail you.

[sirs]

Moral: Tell the truth. Especially under oath, 'cuz if you don't, then it's a crime.

Tell me the truth , who were you talking to at this date last year , what did he tell you? What did you tell him? Was this occasion the first time or the second time that you had heard or spoken this information?

Don't worry if you get it wrong , I don't intend to jail you.

touche', Plane       

[hnumpah]

Tell me the truth , who were you talking to at this date last year , what did he tell you? What did you tell him? Was this occasion the first time or the second time that you had heard or spoken this information?

I don't recall. So how the hell do you figure you could get me for perjury for honestly telling you that? You can't.

Honesty is still the best policy. It is not a crime to not remember or not know something. It can be construed as perjury if, for example, I said I was talking to you on such and such a date about this subject, then it was later shown I was wrong. It may be due to faulty memory, but if I swore it was the truth, then it could result in a perjury charge. If I qualified it by saying something to the effect of 'to the best of my knowledge and/or recollection', then I'd say you might not have a case; I'm not a lawyer, though, so you might want to ask Domer.

[Plane]

Tell me the truth , who were you talking to at this date last year , what did he tell you? What did you tell him? Was this occasion the first time or the second time that you had heard or spoken this information?

I don't recall. So how the hell do you figure you could get me for perjury for honestly telling you that? You can't.

Honesty is still the best policy. It is not a crime to not remember or not know something. It can be construed as perjury if, for example, I said I was talking to you on such and such a date about this subject, then it was later shown I was wrong. It may be due to faulty memory, but if I swore it was the truth, then it could result in a perjury charge. If I qualified it by saying something to the effect of 'to the best of my knowledge and/or recollection', then I'd say you might not have a case; I'm not a lawyer, though, so you might want to ask Domer.

I think you are right here.

So what is Libbey s offense ?

And what has Goodling so frightened?

[hnumpah]

So what is Libbey s offense ?

What did he lie about under oath?

And what has Goodling so frightened?

You'll have to ask her. Seems kind of stupid to try to take the fifth on the grounds that you're going to lie under oath, though. But this administration likes to do things pre-emptively...

[BT]

I don't recall. So how the hell do you figure you could get me for perjury for honestly telling you that?

Wasn't that what Gonsalez did? and how did that work out for him.

[sirs]

I don't recall. So how the hell do you figure you could get me for perjury for honestly telling you that?

Wasn't that what Gonsalez did? and how did that work out for him.

He too has an "R" after his name.