The decision turns on a number of factors - - can they get through Kurdish territory to get into Turkey? Sometimes they get held up at the border waiting for guides and the Kurds rob them unmercifully, charging daily bribes just for allowing them onto "Kurdish" territory. Can they afford to risk that? Which border is open, which journey is safest? How much "hostile" territory has to be crossed for a Sunni or a Shi'a? What country is charging peanuts for an entry visa that was charging lots more the month before? Which country lets you work legally? Which ones effectively let you work illegally? Which ones will send you back and which ones won't? Which ones are easiest to sneak into the U.S.A. or Canada from? In which country's refugee camps will you find your own family or friends? Where would you still be in danger from death squads operating in the camps?
It is not an easy decision to make, plane, but with a little bit of humility, you'd realize that these folks have given the problem a hell of a lot more thought than you have and that if they end up in Syria there's a God-damned good reason for them to be there.
<<I would tell them to return to their homes as a group , uncover for the USMC all of the terrorists who were pestering them and I would want them to be well armed .>>
LMFAO. plane, that is one of the funniest statements I've read all day. I happen to know a few of these people, and I really don't think you'd find any of them who would be favourably impressed by your advice. In fact, I find it slightly surreal that you would have any advice for them at all. They're adults, just as smart as anyone else, and they've lived through incredibly trying and dangerous times. They're as capable as anyone else is of analyzing the situation and they have the advantage over you of knowing the situation and the people intimately, having lived there all their lives.
<<The USMC would gladly remove the pests as rapidly as the light fell on them and they would be just as usefull to humanity in general at Guntanimo as they would be anywhere elese but much less likely to kill people.>>
I don't know what planet you've been living on, but on this one, the USMC has been there for four years and, far from them "removing the pests," the "pests" are about to remove them. It should be apparent to anyone now that the U.S. occupation is on its last legs, the clock is ticking and in a few years the USMC and everything that it represents, both good and bad, will be gone from Iraq like the British imperialists before them. The refugees know it, the "pests" know it, and I think even the USMC knows it. So even if you were crazy enough to follow your own advice, these people are not. They want to be survivors, not martyrs to stupidity. They see the situation on the ground, they know the Marines, they know the insurgents and they've seen first-hand what each can and cannot do.
<<The Refugee problem from the invasion of Iraq and the deposition of Saddam was infanitesimal ,>>
That's just not true either. There were tens of thousands of refugees in Syria, Jordan, Turkey and Greece even during Saddam's reign.
<<I don't see how the refugee problem could exist at all ,if there were not enough people, willing to hide terrorists and insurgents from us, to keep them effective at killing their neighbors>>
BINGO!!! There are a lot of people who want the "terrorists" to win. You can't delegitimize a whole sector of the Iraqi people. If they don't buy into a democracy, there is no consensus and democracy will not work. They can stop it from working and they don't have to be even 50%. And you can't force them to want democracy. That's why democracy can't be shoved down anyone's throat at the point of a gun. Dictatorship can be. Democracy can't be. That's why your effort to "build a stable democracy" would have been doomed from the start if in fact that had been what you were aiming at (which of course you were not and never were.)
