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Michael Tee

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ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« on: June 04, 2007, 11:10:07 AM »
. . . and each of the five is headed by a Republican.

see Algore as quoted by Juan Cole today:  [excerpt follows] -

Polling shows that the percentage of Americans who view Iran as the number one threat to the United States has risen to 27 percent now. I think it was only 20 percent in December 2006. First of all, how in the world can a developing country with about a fourth of the population of the US, about a $2000 per capita income (in real terms, not local purchasing power), with no intercontinental ballistic missiles, with no weapons of mass destruction (and no proof positive it is trying to get them), with a small army and a small military budget-- how is such a country a "threat" to the United States of America? Iranian leaders don't like the US, and they talk dirty about the US, and they do attempt to thwart US interests. The same is true of Venezuela under Chavez. But Tehran is a minor player on the world stage, and trying to build it up to replace the Soviet Union is just the worst sort of fear-mongering, and it is being done on behalf of the US military industrial complex, which wants to do to Iran what it did to Iraq. It is propaganda, and significant numbers of Americans (a 7 percent increase would be like 21 million people!) are buying it.

Why have those poll numbers gone up? Because the Bush administration is trying to hang the Sunni Arab insurgency in Iraq on Iran (and even trying to hang the Taliban resurgence in Afghanistan on Iran). The message of administration and military spokesmen is that Iran is deliberately killing US troops and is a major source of insurgency in Iraq. No convincing evidence has ever been presented for either allegation, nor is it reasonable to assume that Iran plays a significant role in funding hyper-Sunni, Shiite-killing death squads to deliberately destabilize its client governments in Baghdad (al-Maliki) and Kabul (Karzai). Yet the New York Times and even the Guardian put this b.s. on the front page, and of course it is all over CNN, Fox Cable News, MSNBC, etc. Are US journalists trapped in the the dictates of the military-industrial complex by virtue of working for these mega corporations? We know that Roger Ailes at Fox Cable News orders his employees how to spin the day's news (he is a former high Republican Party official). Has any of the journalists counted up how many of the 127 US troops killed in Iraq in May was killed in Sunni Arab areas and how many in Shiite neighborhoods? Has any of them actually read the translated communiques on World News Connection of the Sunni Arab guerrillas and what they say about Iran and Shiites? Has any demanded air tight proof and non-anonymous sources before printing this garbage?

No.

It is this sort of thing that Gore is alarmed about. He is a man of enormous experience in public life, and he is saying that he sees a sea change for the worse in this regard. I concur.

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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 11:33:54 AM »
. . . and each of the five is headed by a Republican.

Not likely, since a number of our media outlets are owned by foreigners.
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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 12:01:57 PM »
I believe Rupert Murdoch has become an American citizen.  Apart from Murdoch, I have no idea who you might be referring to.

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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 12:05:31 PM »
Perhaps if you clarify which 5 news organizations you are referring to we can get to the bottom of your claim.


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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 12:08:02 PM »
Apart from Murdoch, I have no idea who you might be referring to.

Vivendi owns NBC. Also, depending on your definition of "media" Bertelsmann owns quite a bit of the US print market.
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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 12:11:36 PM »
Well, extrapolating from the partial list that Algore gave, I would think it's pretty obvious that he had in mind ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox "News" and CNN.  Murdoch, of course, is Fox, and the others, far as I know, are all American-headed.

In the interests of accuracy, what Gore actually said was that the five heads "vote Republican," which of course is a bit different than "being" Republican.

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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2007, 12:11:58 PM »
Apart from Murdoch, I have no idea who you might be referring to.

Also, Reuters owns quite of bit media, as does Thompson. And Thompson / Reuters are merging.
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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2007, 12:42:17 PM »
Perhaps Gore was taken out of context.


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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2007, 12:53:31 PM »
The fact remains that Iran is about as big a threat to the US as Mongolia.
If the US had not been mislead into Iraq, it would be about as big as Bhutan.

It is in the interest of the Military Industrial Complex that the US public believes that there is a credible enemy abroad out to get them, lest they accurately perceive that their greater threat actually comes from Visa, Mastercard, and above all, Discovercard, as well as marketing experts who convince them that their lives will be incomplete without a 52" plasma Teevee.
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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2007, 04:08:03 PM »
<<It is in the interest of the Military Industrial Complex that the US public believes that there is a credible enemy abroad out to get them . . . >>

Well, THAT of course was the whole point of Gore's comments, but the right wing prefers to discuss the more esoteric parts of the statement, such as how many of the network CEOs actually are American voters.  As if the military-industrial complex couldn't possibly draw support from any individual or group who wasn't an American voter.  As if a multinational corporation is precluded by law from hiring an American to run its American operation.

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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2007, 04:59:35 PM »
The media seems to lean left from my perspective , of course frommy perspective Fox is the only network that even trys to show both sides of any question.


To start with CBS , how did Dan Rather rise high in an organisation supposedly headed by right leaning ownership?

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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2007, 07:03:06 PM »
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Well, THAT of course was the whole point of Gore's comments, but the right wing prefers to discuss the more esoteric parts of the statement, such as how many of the network CEOs actually are American voters.

Was this not the thread title?
ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations .


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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2007, 08:55:30 PM »
<<To start with CBS , how did Dan Rather rise high in an organisation supposedly headed by right leaning ownership?>>

What's the most "left-wing" thing that Dan Rather ever did?

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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2007, 09:03:50 PM »
<<Was this not the thread title?
<<ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations .>>

And your point is . . . ?

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Re: ALL of your TV News comes from 5 corporations . . .
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2007, 11:02:12 PM »
To start with CBS , how did Dan Rather rise high in an organisation supposedly headed by right leaning ownership?

The Peter Principle of course!
In a hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence