AL-QAEDA LEADER KILLED IN BAGHDAD

[Lanya]

They killed a "key link"? Who cares?  I care that over 3500 of our troops have been killed.
Who cared when some asshole Nazi was killed?  Weren't a LOT of them killed?  Why do they  trumpet this "a key link was killed!" news about like it means anything? 

I see this as simple propaganda.  Very simple. For simple minds.  I haven't heard one person I know (in my town) bring this up without laughing at it.
  They have long since abandoned Bush, the GWOT bullcrap, and now they're seriously wondering whether the administration will bomb us---us!---in order to keep war going at all costs.   That 9/11 was an inside job is a given among lots of people I talk to.    HUGE distrust of government.   Even more than when a lot of  people here voted for Perot.             

[Michael Tee]

 << I haven't heard one person I know (in my town) bring this up [the U.S. killed a "key link"] without laughing at it.
   . . . now they're seriously wondering whether the administration will bomb us---us!---in order to keep war going at all costs.   That 9/11 was an inside job is a given among lots of people I talk to. >>

The long parade of lies finally catches up with and overtakes the liars.  Had to happen sooner or later.  These are pretty much the attitudes I see in New York, minus the "inside job" stuff.  Wonder how long before it finally reaches the dumbest of the dumb, the deep South and the Bible Belt?  And in the last analysis, who knows for sure that it WASN'T an inside job?  I'd be surprised, alright, but not bowled over.

[BT]

I care that over 3500 of our troops have been killed.

Then you should care when one of the people responsible for killing them is brought to their knees.

But no, you claim it propaganda and lies because your hatred for Bush trumps your compassion for the troops.

[Michael Tee]

<<But no, you claim it propaganda and lies because your hatred for Bush trumps your compassion for the troops. >>

Bush's compassion for the troops, on the other hand, is manifested by sending them to die or be crippled in a senseless and criminal war of unprovoked aggression, procured by outrageous lies to the nation, and salving their wounds with one bullshit lie after another, including this latest howler that a "linchpin" of al Qaeda has just been eradicated.  WOW, that's compassionate.  He's a veritable Imitation of Christ.

[BT]

Bush's compassion for the troops, on the other hand, is manifested by sending them to die or be crippled in a senseless and criminal war of unprovoked aggression, procured by outrageous lies to the nation, and salving their wounds with one bullshit lie after another, including this latest howler that a "linchpin" of al Qaeda has just been eradicated.  WOW, that's compassionate.  He's a veritable Imitation of Christ.

Except i'm not talking about Bush. I'm taking about Lanya's concern for the troops.

Bush is a separate entity, dontchaknow.

And what he does has no bearing on Lanya's behavior. So it really doesn't matter about your comparative.

[Lanya]

A key leader's been killed.  BUT:
Has the death rate of our troops gone down? 

Did you know that the ratio of injured to dead troops has lowered increasingly in the last couple of months?  I can't remember exactly, but I think the figure I saw on the news was  4.5 injured to 1 dead.   Horrible.
"That's seven injured soldiers for every dead one. During the Vietnam War, the ratio was only two or three to one."--http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,443754,00.html

[BT]

And the vast majority are injured by IED's.

So when an IED expert is brought down, don't  you think that is good news.

Not automatically to be presumed propaganda or the subject of amusement. Your neighbors laughed.

Yet that is what Mikey and you did.

[Michael Tee]

<<Except i'm not talking about Bush. I'm taking about Lanya's concern for the troops.

<<Bush is a separate entity, dontchaknow.

<<And what he does has no bearing on Lanya's behavior. So it really doesn't matter about your comparative. >>

I wasn't going to talk about Lanya's concern for the troop since Lanya can speak for herself.  I raised Bush's compassion more as it relates to your own hypocrisy in attacking Lanya for alleged lack of compassion.   Lanya, you may have noticed, did not cause anyone to suffer or die, and did not cook up bullshit stories as a means of consoling the victims.  When you attacked Lanya's disbelief in what was obviously more bullshit from the Mother of All Bullshit, and attacked the disbelief as a failure of compassion, it was astonishing to say the least.  Not only for the thought that a disbelief in Bush's outrageous bullshit could be taken as evidence of a lack of compassion, but even more so when your willingness to attack Lanya's alleged lack of compassion on such flimsy, not to say nonexistent grounds was compared with a total absence of ANY adverse comment on Bush's lack of compassion for the same troops, be it his refusal to attend their funerals, to grant Cindy Sheehan a second visit, or the mere fact that he had started the war, sent them there to suffer and die and continues the war to this very day.  Your alleged outrage at Lanya's "lack of compassion for the troops" seemed kind of, well, cynical, shallow and manipulative.  But then, that's just my view of things.  Maybe I'm wrong.

[BT]

I raised Bush's compassion more as it relates to your own hypocrisy in attacking Lanya for alleged lack of compassion.

What hypocricy is that?

She allegedly cheers for the team then disbelieves when they score points.

[Michael Tee]

<<She allegedly cheers for the team then disbelieves when they score points. >>

That's the whole point.  The team coach is a liar and a cheat.  His team isn't scoring points, they're getting murdered.  He falsely claims against all evidence to be winning, and as his team is carried off the field one by one in stretchers, some dead and some badly injured, he comes out with one outrageous lie after another which the parents just don't believe any more, and insists that the game should go on.  A game, incidentally, which he himself, and all his buddies, had lacked the guts to play. 

And you want to fault the disbelieving parent for lack of compassion for the players when all she's done is voice disbelief at the lying bastard of a coach.

[BT]

She laims to support the players, not the coach. The coach didn't kill the Al-Queda guy. The players did. You guys are like home town refs who throw  flag when the other team scores a touchdown. It had to be holding or pass interference. It couldn't be a well executed play.

No pun intended.

[Mucho]

I raised Bush's compassion more as it relates to your own hypocrisy in attacking Lanya for alleged lack of compassion.

What hypocricy is that?

She allegedly cheers for the team then disbelieves when they score points.

That is of course the problem, Ace. You see war as one big football game. How pathetic you & your ilk are.

[BT]

You know what an analogy is , dontcha?

[Plane]

A key leader's been killed.  BUT:
Has the death rate of our troops gone down? 

Did you know that the ratio of injured to dead troops has lowered increasingly in the last couple of months?  I can't remember exactly, but I think the figure I saw on the news was  4.5 injured to 1 dead.   Horrible.
"That's seven injured soldiers for every dead one. During the Vietnam War, the ratio was only two or three to one."--http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,443754,00.html

I don't understand.
What is the horrilble part of this?

Woudn't the ratio that counts be the number of uninjured vs injured?

[Plane]

The novelty of the military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq is that more and more soldiers like Hicks are now surviving their injuries. The survival rate for US soldiers was never as high in any previous military operation.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,443754,00.html


I read it and I really don't understand , medical advances save the lives of people who have sustained injurys that were uniformly fatal in the past .
Horrible?