agonizing decisions

[BT]

I'd say that 100,000 killed in a country of 23 million is one hell of a lot of dead people.

Then try to stick to realistic numbers as you rant. The Lancet study is inflated, and you do harm to your arguments when your numbers don't jive with consensus numbers.

And no,AQ is blowing up Shiites because it is in their interests to do so. A civil war creates a vacuum. They want to fill that vacuum without doing the heavy lifting.

[Plane]

In the aftermath of the fall of Fallujah, foreign fighters in Iraq convened a shura , or council, Karahan said. The meeting authorized 10 separate attacks on Israeli targets. Sakka, who told Turkish interrogators he learned bomb-making in Iraq, volunteered to strike the Israeli cruise ships that regularly call on Turkey's southern coast, Karahan said. The attorney said Sakka believed U.S. soldiers used the vessels for R & R and that his own days were numbered.....



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/19/AR2006021901336.html

[Michael Tee]

<<And no,AQ is blowing up Shiites because it is in their interests to do so.>>

They're not the only ones whose interests are served by AQ blowing up Shi'ites or vice versa.

<< A civil war creates a vacuum. They want to fill that vacuum without doing the heavy lifting. >>

Seems to me that the civil war also creates the excuse for the U.S. to stay on without Bush & Cheney having to admit it's all for the oil.  Extends their window of opportunity a few more months at least, years at most, before the public gets really fed up and won't tolerate any more.  How convenient for them, eh?  What a lucky break!  Imagine, just when they need civil war, a civil war just happens to spring into being.  Ever wonder how that happens?

[BT]

yeah .... out with the old in with the new and the old don't like it.

[Michael Tee]

Lotta blood being spilled for nothing.

[BT]

Lotta blood being spilled for nothing.

Perhaps you should have a talk with your AQ buddies. Maybe they will hold of blowing up the next shrine.

[Michael Tee]

They're not MY al Qaeda buddies and I don't give a shit what they do.  I hope they get what they deserve and I hope the U.S. Army and Marines get what they deserve.

[BT]

They're not MY al Qaeda buddies and I don't give a shit what they do.

You sure spend a lot of time defending them and excusing their actions, for them to not be your buddies.

[Michael Tee]

Take it any way you like.  They're the home team defending their home and you're the aggressors invading that home to steal their resources.  Both sides use torture, targeted assassinations, rape and murder as tactics of war and neither side shows any concern for innocent human life.  They're a lot less hypocritical than you, because what you try to deny or cover up, they like to show live in gory detail, but surely these are matters of style, not substance.  But I will repeat:  they're not my buddies and I don't give a shit what they do.

[BT]

You confuse AQ with the Baathist insurgents.

Since when is AQ the home team?

[Michael Tee]

Since they are Muslim Middle Easterners and you're not.

[BT]

Since they are Muslim Middle Easterners and you're not.

Wrong. The hometeam is Iraqi's. With no more rights to meddle and decimate tha nthe Iranian's, who according to reports are crossing the border in force.

[Michael Tee]

<<Wrong. The hometeam is Iraqi's. With no more rights to meddle and decimate tha nthe Iranian's, who according to reports are crossing the border in force. >>

The home team is whoever lives in the area and pitches in to repel the aggressors.  The only party "meddling" and "decimating" seems to be the U.S. Army but it's really hilarious that you can denounce the next-door neighbours for "meddling" in a country that Americans travelled thousands of miles to massacre and invade.  I'd call it coming to the assistance of a neighbour.

[Plane]

<<Wrong. The hometeam is Iraqi's. With no more rights to meddle and decimate tha nthe Iranian's, who according to reports are crossing the border in force. >>

The home team is whoever lives in the area and pitches in to repel the aggressors.  The only party "meddling" and "decimating" seems to be the U.S. Army but it's really hilarious that you can denounce the next-door neighbours for "meddling" in a country that Americans travelled thousands of miles to massacre and invade.  I'd call it coming to the assistance of a neighbour.

There were a lot of people who said this same thing to FDR.

[Michael Tee]

<<There were a lot of people who said this same thing to FDR.>>

They believed it was a European war which did not concern the U.S.A.  In fact, it was a World War and it did concern the U.S.A.  So they were all very, very , wrong.