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The break-in that history forgot
« on: June 30, 2007, 09:33:07 PM »
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The Break-In That History Forgot

By EGIL KROGH
Published: June 30, 2007

Seattle

THE Watergate break-in, described by Ron Ziegler, then the White House press secretary, as a ?third-rate burglary,? passes its 35th anniversary this month. The common public perception is that Watergate was the principal cause of President Nixon?s downfall. In fact, the seminal cause was a first-rate criminal conspiracy and break-in almost 10 months earlier that led inexorably to Watergate and its subsequent cover-up.

In early August 1971, I attended a secret meeting in Room 16, a hideaway office in the basement of the Old Executive Office Building, across the street from the White House. Huddled around the table were G. Gordon Liddy, a former F.B.I. agent; E. Howard Hunt, a former C.I.A. agent; and David R. Young Jr., a member of the National Security Council staff. I was deputy assistant to the president.

Two months earlier, The New York Times had published the classified Pentagon Papers, which had been provided by Daniel Ellsberg. President Nixon had told me he viewed the leak as a matter of critical importance to national security. He ordered me and the others, a group that would come to be called the ?plumbers,? to find out how the leak had happened and keep it from happening again.

Mr. Hunt urged us to carry out a ?covert operation? to get a ?mother lode? of information about Mr. Ells-berg?s mental state, to discredit him, by breaking into the office of his psychiatrist, Dr. Lewis Fielding. Mr. Liddy told us the F.B.I. had frequently carried out such covert operations ? a euphemism for burglaries ? in national security investigations, that he had even done some himself.

I listened intently. At no time did I or anyone else there question whether the operation was necessary, legal or moral. Convinced that we were responding legitimately to a national security crisis, we focused instead on the operational details: who would do what, when and where.

Mr. Young and I sent a memo to John Ehrlichman, assistant to the president, recommending that ?a covert operation be undertaken to examine all of the medical files still held by Ellsberg?s psychiatrist.? Mr. Ehrlichman approved the plan, noting in longhand on the memo, ?if done under your assurance that it is not traceable.?

On Sept. 3, 1971, burglars broke into Dr. Fielding?s Beverly Hills office to photograph the files, but found nothing related to Mr. Ellsberg.

The premise of our action was the strongly held view within certain precincts of the White House that the president and those functioning on his behalf could carry out illegal acts with impunity if they were convinced that the nation?s security demanded it. As President Nixon himself said to David Frost during an interview six years later, ?When the president does it, that means it is not illegal.? To this day the implications of this statement are staggering.

With the Fielding break-in, some of us in the Nixon White House crossed the Rubicon into the realm of lawbreakers. In November 1973, I pleaded guilty to criminal conspiracy in depriving Dr. Fielding of his civil rights, specifically his constitutional right to be free from an unwarranted search. I no longer believed that national security could justify my conduct. At my sentencing, I explained that national security is ?subject to a wide range of definitions, a factor that makes all the more essential a painstaking approach to the definition of national security in any given instance.?

Judge Gerhard Gesell gave me the first prison sentence of any member of the president?s staff: two to six years, of which I served four and a half months.

I finally realized that what had gone wrong in the Nixon White House was a meltdown in personal integrity. Without it, we failed to understand the constitutional limits on presidential power and comply with statutory law.

In early 2001, after President Bush was inaugurated, I sent the new White House staff a memo explaining the importance of never losing their personal integrity. In a section addressed specifically to the White House lawyers, I said that integrity required them to constantly ask, is it legal? And I recommended that they rely on well-established legal precedent and not some hazy, loose notion of what phrases like ?national security? and ?commander in chief? could be tortured into meaning. I wonder if they received my message.

Egil Krogh, a lawyer, is the author of the forthcoming ?Integrity: Good People, Bad Choices and Life Lessons From the White House.?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/30/opinion/30krogh.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2007, 10:13:21 PM »
Hillary, Eavesdropper? Big Mama is Listening! Kf has obtained a copy of page 93 of the unreleased Gerth-Van Natta Hillary Clinton book, which describes how, during the '92 campaign, Hillary herself

    "listened to a secretly recorded audiotape of a phone conversation of Clinton critics plotting their next attack. The tape contained discussions of another woman who might surface with allegations about an affair with Bill. Bill's supporters monitored frequencies used by cell phones, and the tape was made during one of those monitoring sessions."

Hmm. Phone-monitoring was a key investigative method of what notorious California-based Clinton-friendly private eye and problem solver? Just asking! ... P.S.: I'm not talking about Jack Palladino, who is explicitly mentioned in the footnotes as working for the Clinton team and would not have to be described as a "supporter." But of course, it could still be him, or any other "supporter." (Nor is it clear if the phones were being monitored in Arkansas or D.C..) ... I don't know how common cell-phone-monitoring was in 1992. ... P.P.S.: Wasn't there a character in Joe Klein's Primary Colors who did this sort of thing? ... P.P.P.S.: Isn't it not so legal? ... See also this exegesis of the elements of a violation of 18 U.S.C. 2511 (1) (a). I'm not an expert, but it looks like a potential minefield for Hillary. Think what Patrick Fitzgerald could have done with the provision criminalizing anyone who "intentionally uses, or endeavors to use, the contents of any wire, oral, or electronic communication" knowing it was obtained illegally. [E.A.] Maybe it all depends on what the uses of "uses" are! ... Did I bury the lede? ...

Update: Actually, say the profs at the Volokh Conspiracy, it depends on whether they were cell calls or cordless calls! Gerth and Van Natta say "cell." I don't think Hillary can take much comfort in Volokh's analysis. ... 5:15 P.M. link

http://www.slate.com/id/2167180/&#clintoncell

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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2007, 10:16:59 PM »
Who the hell cares.

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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2007, 10:19:43 PM »
Who the hell cares.


At the minimum, the authors of both articles and the members who took the time to post them.

Apparently, you don't.


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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 02:33:34 PM »
Bt, are you honestly comparing that to Watergate?

Are you minimizing Watergate?
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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 03:08:13 PM »
Disrespect for the law manifests itself in many ways.

What is past is prologue.

We spent a winter and spring discussing wiretaps legal and otherwise......is it OK for Hillary because she is a Democrat?




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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2007, 04:32:53 PM »
Disrespect for the law manifests itself in many ways.

What is past is prologue.

We spent a winter and spring discussing wiretaps legal and otherwise......is it OK for Hillary because she is a Democrat?

There is a difference in disrespect and outright breaking the law under orders of the President, is there not?

Or is this one of those nuance things?
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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2007, 04:55:22 PM »
The only nuance i see is whether the president or presidential aspirant as the case may be were in office at the time of the crime.


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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 05:05:44 PM »
According to the "article" it is not even understood if there was a crime.

That's a far cry from breaking-in and going over one's confiedential psychiatric records. Then breaking-in to Watergate Hotel. Then engaging in a cover up operation.

Though, if there was a crime, I'd have no problem with anyone involved being investigated and given trial.

There's not even a Gerald Ford to pardon her. Of course, according to the right-wing when President Ford died not long ago, that was a spectacularly wonderful and courageous action he took <eyeroll>.
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Re: The break-in that history forgot
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 05:31:13 PM »
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According to the "article" it is not even understood if there was a crime.

Don't see where the law changed, who was the congressman who got censured for illegally passing on intercepted celll calls?

Bonior or McDermott i think.