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Iraq War vets sue VA Sec. Nicholson
« on: July 24, 2007, 02:37:56 AM »
Injured Iraq war veterans sue the federal government
HOPE YEN The Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 07/23/2007 12:27:13 PM EDT

WASHINGTON -- Frustrated by delays in health care, a coalition of injured Iraq war veterans is accusing VA Secretary Jim Nicholson of breaking the law by denying them disability pay and mental health treatment.

The class-action lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, filed today in federal court in San Francisco, seeks broad change in the VA as the agency struggles to meet growing demands from veterans returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Suing on behalf of hundreds of thousands of veterans, it charges that the VA has failed warriors on several fronts -- from providing prompt disability benefits, to adding staff to reduce wait times for medical care to boosting services for post-traumatic stress disorder.

The lawsuit also accuses the VA of deliberately cheating some veterans by allegedly working with the Pentagon to misclassify some claims as pre-existing personality disorders to avoid paying out benefits.

A spokesman for the VA would not comment. The VA and Pentagon have generally denied such
charges.

"Unless systemic and drastic measures are instituted immediately, the costs to these veterans, their families, and our nation will be incalculable, including broken families, a new generation of unemployed and homeless veterans, increases in drug abuse and alcoholism, and crushing burdens on the health care delivery system," the complaint states.

Walter Reed: The lawsuit comes amid intense political and public scrutiny of the VA and Pentagon after reports of shoddy outpatient care of injured soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and elsewhere.

It asks that a federal court order the VA to make immediate improvements that would speed disability payments, ensure fairness in awards and provide more complete access to mental health care.

Earlier this month, a federal appeals court in San Francisco issued a strong rebuke of the VA in ordering the agency to pay retroactive benefits to Vietnam War veterans who were exposed to Agent Orange and contracted a form of leukemia.

"The performance of the United States Department of Veterans Affairs has contributed substantially to our sense of national shame," the opinion from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals read.

Nicholson abruptly announced last week he would step down by Oct. 1 to return to the private sector. He has repeatedly defended the agency during his 21/2-year tenure while acknowledging there was room for improvement.

More recently, after high-profile suicide incidents in which families of veterans say the VA did not provide adequate care, Nicholson pledged to add mental health services and hire more suicide-prevention coordinators.

Some veterans say those measures aren't enough. In the lawsuit, they note that government investigators warned as early as 2002 that the VA needed to fix its backlogged claims system and make other changes.

$1 billion: Yet, the lawsuit says, Nicholson and other officials still insisted on a budget in 2005 that fell $1 billion short, and they made "a mockery of the rule of law" by awarding senior officials $3.8 million in bonuses despite their role in the budget foul-up.

Today, the VA's backlog of disability payments is now between 400,000 and 600,000, with delays of up to 177 days to process an initial claim and an average of 657 days to process an appeal. Several congressional committees and a presidential commission are studying ways to improve care.

"While steps can and will be taken in the political arena, responsibility for action lies with the agency itself," said Melissa W. Kasnitz, managing attorney for Disability Rights Advocates, in a telephone interview. Her group is teaming up with a major law firm, Morrison & Foerster, to represent the veterans.

"We don't believe the problems will be fixed by the VA if we wait for them," she said. "In the meantime, it is veterans who risk their lives for our country who are suffering the consequences."

The lawsuit cites violations of the Constitution and federal law, which mandates at least two years of health care to injured veterans.

The veterans groups involved in the lawsuit are Veterans for Common Sense in Washington, D.C., which claims 11,500 members, and Veterans United for Truth, based in Santa Barbara, Calif., with 500 members.

On the Web:

Disability Rights Advocates: www.dralegal.org

Department of Veterans Affairs: www.va.gov
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19916581/
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Re: Iraq War vets sue VA Sec. Nicholson
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2007, 03:40:40 AM »
I must be extremely fortunate in that everyone i talk to who has used the metro atlanta va is extremely happy with the service. I had a blood clot situation after a catheterization in January and i was seeing the heads of cardiology, podiatry and vascular medicine as they were trying to figure out what was going on. Meanwhile my primary care physician is following the entire sequence online. My last visit we talked more about the computer systems in place and how they had geared up for Iraq Vets than we did my medical situation.

My reality differs greatly from this report.


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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2007, 02:00:37 PM »
I"m really glad your experiences (and my brother's too, by the way) have been far different and much better than this report. 
Nevertheless, this report is about  recent Iraqi War vets and stands on its own. 
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Re: Iraq War vets sue VA Sec. Nicholson
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2007, 03:12:19 PM »
I'm dure it does.

Thankfully it is going to court so there will be full disclosure from both sides and closure once the verdict comes in.


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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2007, 04:15:09 PM »
Apparently the point Lanya's trying to make Bt, is that you're the exception to the rule.      :-\
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2007, 06:52:16 PM »
Sirs,
Not at all.
My brother served during the early 1950s.   BT served during Vietnam.  Years and years have passed, during which their names have been put into the files, they've been seen by docs, etc.

These soldiers are fresh from combat.  Thousands of them, and they all need treatment, they need money, they need evaluation, and they are not getting it.  The signature injury of this war is traumatic brain injury.   There's a  high incidence of PTSD with all the back to back tours of duty, which didn't happen in Vietnam (unless someone reupped). 

Do you not see a difference between the two groups? If not, never mind.
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Re: Iraq War vets sue VA Sec. Nicholson
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2007, 08:24:30 PM »
This is the way it works. You go to hospital, give them your name and ssn and they treat you.

The soldiers you talk about are seeking pensions which is quite different than health care.

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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2007, 08:39:15 PM »
This is the way it works. You go to hospital, give them your name and ssn and they treat you.

The soldiers you talk about are seeking pensions which is quite different than health care.

Should it be?
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Re: Iraq War vets sue VA Sec. Nicholson
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2007, 09:22:03 PM »
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Should it be?

Don't see why not.

One involves the treating of health issues.

The other involves due diligence on the part of those charged with overseeing the public purse.

One would expect emphasis on a speedy diagnosis in a health threatening situation.

One would not expect the same urgency in approving veteran pension status that will last a lifetime.

What is surprising is one of the first thing one learns in the military is how to hurry up and wait.

The soldiers should know this is how it works.




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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2007, 09:36:22 PM »
Could this also be linked to cost issues?
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2007, 10:07:15 PM »
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Could this also be linked to cost issues?

Sure, and it also could be linked to fraud issues.

Due diligence  is required.


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Re: Iraq War vets sue VA Sec. Nicholson
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2007, 02:52:40 AM »
Do you not see a difference between the two groups?

Yea, I do.  when things were being run under a Democrat President, everything was hunky dory.  When Bush took office, the same care all of a sudden became inexcusable care
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2007, 01:01:35 PM »
Well, to be honest, sirs, I do not remember a "scandal" like this during Clinton's time.

Then again, we were not engaged in a conflict of this magnitude where issues like these, substandard care and so on, would be revelaed.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2007, 04:24:01 PM »
Well, to be honest, sirs, I do not remember a "scandal" like this during Clinton's time.  Then again, we were not engaged in a conflict of this magnitude where issues like these, substandard care and so on, would be revelaed.

Precisely.  And to be just as honest, I don't see a "scandal" here.  Just a drummed up emotional ranting of healthcare under this particular president
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2007, 04:51:43 PM »
Well, let's be honest. The conditions at Walter Reed are beyond substandard.
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