Ahh, so it's the U.S.'s fault for all other failed countries. 
No, not all. In some countries we do hold some responsibilities for our actions. We pumped billions of dollars into the Duvaliers in Haiti, yet none of that money ever reached the infrastructure or the actual people of that nation. It is miserably poor and yes, we are responsible for our actions - are we not?
We are responsible for OUR actions, which doesn't include what monies & resources other governments keep for themselves and NOT distribute to their people. Or are you advocating we bypass all soverign governments and do air drops any damn place or time we want?
My point of bringing up poverty Js was simply to add a FACTUAL concept to this dicsussion. Are you trying to claim there are many poverty stricken countries that the U.S. envies??
First, I never said that. Second, countries don't feel envy.
NOOO? You've got to be kidding. People coming here from other countries don't evny America? People coming from impoverished and destitute countries come here........why then??
Honestly Sirs, to call that a "FACTUAL concept" or even a "concept" at all is a grave injustice to thinking people everywhere.
Amazing, calling a poor country poor in comparisom to the U.S., is some form of injustice. Because "thinking" people know better? Yea, no elitism in that comment. And you get away with this in other debate circles?
Trying to make this a classwarfare thing is when someone tries to claim poverty caused by a big bad mean rich person, in this case, the U.S,, and apparently has little to do with the circumstances & choices one makes, or governent that person's country runs. That's ALL you big guy
Dear Lord! The sad part is that you actually believe that is what class struggle is about, don't you?
No, that would be you, when you keep comparing people from other countries and their rationales for coming here, with the added inferrence of how we don't want them here because.......well, I can only assume that you think that America thinks they don't deserve to be here. Now, are you going to focus on illegal immigration, or keep making this about this tangential conversation you claimed you never were apart of??
Yea, I do (feel bad for others who are born in less advanced, poverty stricken countries
In your little office with your air conditioning and bottled water, I bet you do.
Yea, I do. You really want to bet on this??
Anything else you wish to claim you know so well about me??
You're right, I said it, in demonstrating how erroneous it is
That's called a strawman. You build it so you can knock it down.
In the presence of the master, apparently
My argument is completely economic, but also uses historical components (in that I can point to successes in open border policy).
While mine is completely about LEGAL vs ILLEGAL immigration, and has ZIP to do with ethnicity or how poor a person is, and is also based on economic principles, policies, and resources, with the added component of my being an intimate part of one of those resources currently being stripped down by both illegal immigration and ever increasing government bureacrcy. (i.e. in that I can point to the acute failures and probable outcomes of an open border policy)
