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Re: God's Warriors: Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2007, 01:06:12 PM »
Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat

random thoughts:
i am undecided on many of the following and just interested in other's thoughts
what about burkas?
would anyone be offended to walk into a walmart 5 years from now and 1/2 the women in there are wearing burkas?
i know that wont happen, but if it did, well would it bother you?
i suppose it would be their legal right? freedom of expression? freedom of religion?
in some ways catholic nuns used to wear burka like outfits
so what would be the difference?
but honestly when i saw a woman in a head to toe burka at O'Hare in Chicago my immediate reaction was negative
i suppose it may have to do with what the burka partly represents in my mind, repression of women?
any thoughts?
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Re: God's Warriors: Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2007, 02:36:03 PM »
I just figured it out
Ive been scared of sounding racist with some of my answers
but just realized  it`s the truth and will deal with it when confronted
thanks christian for your inquiry
now for my answer
I too with shame have flashes of negative thoughts of seeing somebody with a burqa.
but thinking about it my response is too bad
the true question is if anybody else bomb something would someone not think negative of that group ?
that lady in the article never mentioned she would not think negative to us if the reverse happened.
as long as we don`t pursue these irrational flash thoughts we should be ok
i think she`s asking too much in life
yes it`s unfair
but at least we`re acknowledging it and not doing stupid stuff
sounds like progress to me


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Re: God's Warriors: Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2007, 02:54:49 PM »
Why should seeing a woman wearing a burkha be more frightening than seeing a woman wearing the habit of a traditional nun?
St Paul said women should always cover their heads in public.

I purpose that religious nonsense is religious nonsense, regardless of the religion.
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Re: God's Warriors: Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2007, 02:55:17 PM »
I too with shame have flashes of negative thoughts of seeing somebody with a burqa.

I must be weird. When I see someone wearing a burqa in the summer, I think "wonder if it's hot as hell in there?" If I see one in the winter, I think "wonder if it's warm in there?"
Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. (Benjamin Franklin)

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Re: God's Warriors: Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2007, 03:13:49 PM »
actually that outfit can be quite practical
here in S.F. it can get quite cold and that outfit would make alot of sense
vegas in the low himid heat would work very well because the loose fabrics does a very well job of dissipating heat
but in humid areas like in new orleans
forget about it
indonesia is a highly muslim country but it`s a battle to get people to wear the burqa
it`s just too humid
pretty much only the old folks wear it.


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Re: God's Warriors: Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2007, 03:14:54 PM »
Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat

random thoughts:
i am undecided on many of the following and just interested in other's thoughts
what about burkas?
would anyone be offended to walk into a walmart 5 years from now and 1/2 the women in there are wearing burkas?
i know that wont happen, but if it did, well would it bother you?
i suppose it would be their legal right? freedom of expression? freedom of religion?
in some ways catholic nuns used to wear burka like outfits
so what would be the difference?
but honestly when i saw a woman in a head to toe burka at O'Hare in Chicago my immediate reaction was negative
i suppose it may have to do with what the burka partly represents in my mind, repression of women?
any thoughts?


Christian, first I want to ask for a clarification on your terminology.

A burqa is, for example, what we saw women in Afghanistan wearing under Taliban rule. All black, thick, heavy, covered head to toe, including face (and even eyes). Sometimes the Niqab is also referred to as burqa.
(See a picture of burqa here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa)

Niqab is a form of face covering (only - not referring to any other garments on the body), usually exposing only the eyes.
(See a picture of niqab here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niqab)

Hijab is the head scarf, worn by many Muslim women in the company of non-related men.
(See a picture of Hijab here: http://www.thehijabshop.com/)

Abaya is the outer garment worn as a sort of overcoat to cover whatever the women is wearing underneath. Women will usually wear this while outside of the home (at the market, in transit, etc.) but will remove this overcoat upon reaching the home of friend or family.
(See a picture of Abaya here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaya)

If you seriously meant burqa, in terms of what we saw Afghani women wearing, I can't blame you for thinking repression. I do too. A large majority of Muslims see it as repression as well, usually political in nature.

If you meant niqab, more and more Muslim women are starting to cover their faces around the world. Still, even mainstream Muslims consider it going WAY too far; at the very least far beyond what they have learned through the Qu'ran and Hadith.

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Re: God's Warriors: Muslim women: My headscarf is not a threat
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2007, 12:05:09 AM »
Christian, first I want to ask for a clarification on your terminology.

if you are asking me, when i say burka this is how i envision a burka



and this is basically what somebody was wearing inside O'Hare Airport in Chicago.


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