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Satan's in the Stall Beside Me
« on: August 30, 2007, 10:10:08 PM »
Very perceptive article by Nina Burleigh in today's Huffington Post, dealing with the relationship between homosexuality and Republican politics, also going a long way towards explaining the visceral hatred that Republicans showed towards Bill Clinton, which I sometimes put down to sexual jealousy in many cases.  Maybe I didn't realize the half of it!!

SATAN?S IN THE STALL BESIDE ME
Nina Burleigh ? Huffington Post
The demise of mountain state Republican Senator Larry Craig amuses those of us who enjoy watching right-wing heroes crash to the ground, spiked on their own hypocrisy. It further confirms my theory: prick any conservative and the kink oozes out. The rockier the rib, the more likely you'll find pink lingerie under the trousers or a bullwhip and manacles in the bedside drawer. You can bet those Beltway dominatrices, madams and escorts (gay and straight) have been able to buy second homes -- maybe even in Sun Valley! -- with their haul during W's reign.
However, because we are people of compassion, we should also feel a little horrified by this tortured man's sad, humiliating demise. He's obviously lived his whole life afflicted by the religious psychobabble and outright bigotry of people who say homosexuality is a sickness and a lifestyle decision instead of an innate state of being that has nothing to do with illness or choice.
The sickness, of course, is in the suppression, which is why closeted men seek love in rank public bathroom stalls.
The Republican Party got Bush re-elected in 2004 by playing the homophobe card. In Ohio, their minions went door-to-door in Amish country and warned the historically non-secular inhabitants that if they didn't get out and register Republican, gay marriage would be the law of the land. Tens of thousands of Amish men and women hitched horses to buggies, cracked their whips, and raced to the nearest polling place to vote to repel the Sodomites. With their unprecedented help, Ohio, that crucial state, slid ever so narrowly into the red column, sending the Bush regime back to the White House with four more years to plot how to bomb Tehran.
The trouble with this wedge issue, as everyone now knows, is that it's Republican suicide. The hateful public stance of the party has driven its many gay members into ever more contorted acts of self-loathing excess, driving the disease of suppression out in the open and subjecting men to public stoning by their own frenzied followers.
Foley, Haggard and Craig are only the most famous. There's Florida Rep. Bob Allen, also caught lurking for sex in a public bathroom, Corporal Matt Sanchez, gay porn star and -- for a shining moment -- Fox News channel's right wing Marine of the moment. And who can forget Jeff Gannon, the right-wing faux journalist with a secret life as a gay escort favored with a hard (yes!) White House press pass by the Bush administration communications department.
Yesterday, Republicans were sprinting away from shiny-shod, crisply cuffed mountain man Larry. Craig "represents the Republican Party," Rep. Pete Hoekstra, Republican of Michigan, said. You got that right, Pete! And then: "I think it's important for Republicans to step out right now and say, 'No, this behavior is not going to be tolerated.'"
"Tolerated." Now there's a word Republicans should meditate on for a long moment.
When I was covering Capitol Hill just before Clinton's impeachment, every other young, spiffily manicured male staffer I met in Republican Congressional offices was at least androcentric, if not obviously gay. I don't have a sensitive gay-dar, but there was something about them. Ties never askew, hair immaculately groomed, cuffs gleaming, they usually knew more about my shoes than I did.
Bill Clinton's voracious heterosexuality had as much to do with drawing their rabid hatred as any of his other attributes. He loved women too much, and if only he'd given equal time and effort to seducing those beautiful men, he might have saved himself some trouble.
Republicans in Washington know there are probably more gay men in their ranks than there are on Castro Street.
Still, against all logic and sense, they won't utter a word about tolerance.
It's time for Republicans to embrace their own gay wing and stop fueling the sickness of suppression that drives men like Larry Craig into airport bathroom stalls. Until they do, they're headed straight for the toilet with him -- not that they shouldn't jump right in anyway.


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Re: Satan's in the Stall Beside Me
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 10:38:25 PM »
re: "spiked on their own hypocrisy"

what kind of like these guys?





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Re: Satan's in the Stall Beside Me
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2007, 10:46:08 PM »
Marvelous article Michael- Exactly my sentiments if presented a little too mildly for me.

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2007, 10:51:58 PM »
Good point, in some ways the leadership of the Democratic Party are hypocritical ass-holes and deserve to be taken down for it. 

They lost me the day after it became apparent they weren't gonna do jack-shit to stop the war.  Why are you busting their balls when they're really on the same side as you?   

Wonder if Kucinich and Dean would be equally vulnerable?  If not, you guys would have to wrack your brains to find some other way of defaming them.

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 11:01:16 PM »
<<When I was covering Capitol Hill just before Clinton's impeachment, every other young, spiffily manicured male staffer I met in Republican Congressional offices was at least androcentric, if not obviously gay. I don't have a sensitive gay-dar, but there was something about them. Ties never askew, hair immaculately groomed, cuffs gleaming, they usually knew more about my shoes than I did.
Bill Clinton's voracious heterosexuality had as much to do with drawing their rabid hatred as any of his other attributes. He loved women too much, and if only he'd given equal time and effort to seducing those beautiful men, he might have saved himself some trouble.
Republicans in Washington know there are probably more gay men in their ranks than there are on Castro Street. >>

THAT was a little too mild for you, Knute?  Wow, I thought - - especially in that last line that I bolded - - she's laying it out exactly the way it is.  But the important thing is that she's dealing with the issue, while everyone else is tip-toeing around it.  The Republican Party really IS the party of the closet gays, and they keep getting caught in the same trap over and over and over again.  When ARE they gonna wise up and change the record?

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2007, 11:07:45 PM »
Interesting that you think a party is defined by its sexual orientation.

Is it impossible for a homosexual to be fiscally conservative?

Is it impossible for a homosexual to be for home rule?

I think not.


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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 11:10:43 PM »
She is exactly right on. It is just that I think the RW pervs should be bludgeoned even more. They cant even tell the difference from being legitimately gay which is a healthy and being a gross perv which they all are because of their black hearts and twisted "values"..

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2007, 12:50:14 AM »
<<Interesting that you think a party is defined by its sexual orientation.>>

Be careful when you try to put words in my mouth. 

I never said the Republican Party is defined by its sexual orientation.  It is defined by its greed, lack of concern for the working class and lumpenproletariat, militarism, fascism, racism and the great inherited wealth of its major financial backers. 

I believe the Party is a magnet for sexually repressed closeted gays, because it takes a special kind of coldness to repress one's own sexual being, just as it takes a special kind of coldness to repress other human beings, be they welfare mums, the working poor, the black underclass or simple Arab farmers trying to eke out a miserable existence under foreign military occupation.  It's just a good fit.  The "law'n'order" program would appeal to a self-hating, self-repressed gay male.  They are naturally Republicans.  And of course, the chance to get close to America's fighting men and shower them with lavish adulation and affection would probably be the icing on the cake for them.  A dream come true.

<<Is it impossible for a homosexual to be fiscally conservative?>>

I don't think so.  For a closet gay, self-repression and fiscal discipline (self-denial) would go hand in hand.

<<Is it impossible for a homosexual to be for home rule?>>

Sorry, but I don't get your reference.  "Home Rule" is generally used in discussions of "the Irish Question" in the U.K. but I'm not sure in what context you are using it.


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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2007, 05:09:22 AM »
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The rockier the rib, the more likely you'll find...a bullwhip and manacles in the bedside drawer.

Hey, what's wrong with that?
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2007, 10:03:21 AM »
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The rockier the rib, the more likely you'll find...a bullwhip and manacles in the bedside drawer.

Hey, what's wrong with that?

If I remember correctly , you consider yourself a Repub as well. Figures.

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2007, 02:49:20 PM »
Which has nothing to do with the type of entertainment I enjoy.

I seem to recall Bubba liked to play with cigars.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2007, 03:00:04 PM »
[The Republican Party got Bush re-elected in 2004 by playing the homophobe card. In Ohio, their minions went door-to-door in Amish country and warned the historically non-secular inhabitants that if they didn't get out and register Republican, gay marriage would be the law of the land. Tens of thousands of Amish men and women hitched horses to buggies, cracked their whips, and raced to the nearest polling place to vote to repel the Sodomites. With their unprecedented help, Ohio, that crucial state, slid ever so narrowly into the red column, sending the Bush regime back to the White House with four more years to plot how to bomb Tehran.



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I don't beleive this is true , the Amish do not vote at all.

Does being true matter in an article that is not in any way serious?

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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2007, 03:08:33 PM »


Is it impossible for a homosexual to be fiscally conservative?

Is it impossible for a homosexual to be for home rule?

I think not.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2007, 03:17:03 PM »
I don't beleive this is true , the Amish do not vote at all.

Well, some do. I find it hard to believe that "10s of thousands" Amish voted in Ohio. That would have to have been almost all the Amish in Ohio.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2007, 03:40:47 PM »
I don't beleive this is true , the Amish do not vote at all.

Well, some do. I find it hard to believe that "10s of thousands" Amish voted in Ohio. That would have to have been almost all the Amish in Ohio.


     I have met a few Amish and several Minnanite and Jehovas Witness , these groups take it as a principal that they shouldn't participate in something as corrupt as government.

     Can you estimate how many of these do vote?