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[Lanya]

Plane,
Student uniformity and uniform, equal dispersal of school monies are two different things.

I wonder if your son has a learning disability, or is dyslexic.  My younger son has a learning disability,  which surprised me to learn as he taught himself to read sometime around kindergarten.   

[Xavier_Onassis]

When I was a child student uniformity was my very bane.
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You have misunderstood once again.

By uniformity, I do not mean forcing all children to behave within narrow parameters. I am referring to the amount expended per student and the curriculum to be equally distributed throughout the country, as opposed to kids in rich 'burbs being given a more demanding curriculum and four times the money expended on them.

School uniforms have their advantages and disadvantages, but I don't think that it is any big deal with regard to the quality of education. I know I would have hated a uniform in HS personally.

 Every child is an individual and should be treated as such.

What I loathed most was being forced to spend a;ll my recesses and lunch hour recreation periods playing baseball, which is hideously boring and a lot less exercise than the games we invented for ourselves.

This was done to give the PE majors at the local college some coaching experience.

[kimba1]

uniforms would be cool if they weren`t made to be something popular for porno
my friend went to girls school and was always getting hit on after school.
she said all girls get harrassed
those girlschool outfits needs to be changed
they are not safe
I repeat not safe for girls to wear
alot of parents think private schools are safer than public
so not true
all the girls school have nicknames like maternaty high

[Mr_Perceptive]

Education is more uniform and higher in quality in countries like Sweden and Belgium and France, where the money is collected and allocated uniformly.

When I was a child student uniformity was my very bane.

If, by this, you mean you were expected to follow the norm, yep, and that is not bad, to a degree. Children need to know there are rules and boundaries defined by OTHERS. There is a place for individualism, a definite place. We need the melancholies, the artists and so on. But, they still must learn the rules first and then inject their individualism within those rules. Even at the college level, this is the case. I have studen who perhaps know more about the subject matter than do, yet they still "must play the game". Not a bad lesson to learn, actually.

[Plane]

When I went to Public school , I did well untill I learned to read , then I read everything they had and could get no more .

The school was a factory and I was on the conveyor belt, only for the minority of students whose natural learning rate was close to the planned teahing rate was the school well suited.

Once I was in a history class and frustrate the teacher by aceing his tests without studying anything he provided , the next quarter he was teaching anthropology and had changed his system to weight homework more heavyly , but still the infrmation was so basic that I passed with no effort and he was almost as frustrated as I .

My Son is nothing like dislexic , if anything, he is quicker to understand concept than I was. The school served to hobble his natural curiosity and warehouse his body untill he escaped it.

[kimba1]

what kind of public school is that
my niece and nephews were taking college courses in high school
as I mentioned several time my nephew place 3rd in acedemics for the whole state
what kind of school doesn`t provide for the (lets just say) more bored students.
is this a state thing?
here in california we got advance placement programs.
when I was in college I knew several AP kids

[Lanya]

Plane--I'm sorry, I really was just asking for information. I didn't assume it.
There are TAG classes here, Talented and Gifted, but there aren't near enough of them. 
The schools are crushed with NCLB requirements and very very bright kids like your son are bored, frustrated, get angry, etc.  I really hope it goes better this year. 

[Amianthus]

The schools are crushed with NCLB requirements

How does periodic testing (once a year) "crush" a school?

[BT]

How does periodic testing (once a year) "crush" a school?

Excellent question.

Seems most of the negativity i hear is from teachers trying to save their jobs.

[Amianthus]

Seems most of the negativity i hear is from teachers trying to save their jobs.

As far as I can tell, if a teacher teaches at least at the grade level, the students will do well on the tests. Don't see why it's a big deal, if they're doing their jobs...

[BT]

And it isn't like the administration is demanding eachers teach to the test. That comes from the education establishment, protecting its turf.

[kimba1]

seem tobe some conflicting stuff going on here
I hear it`s next to impossible to fire a teacher
but here your stating teachers are hanging by a thread if they don`t teach well enough
is this regional context?
20/20 did a program showing how difficult it is to fire a poor performing teacher.
as a person who don`t teach,I`m guilty of not seeing why can`t a teacher get a overview of the test and drill the students for at least 1 semester on it.
as mentioned on this thread it`s not very hard.
but the very fact school are having trouble ,means I don`t know what I`m talking about

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is a lot more to teaching than knowing the subject matter and how to explain it.

If you have 35 students who can't read, or no books, or no cooperation from the parents or thye school administration, no amount of knowledge and methodology will result in adequate learning.

If some student tells the teacher to F*ck off and the next day the principal sends him back unpunished to the classroom.

If the students are unconcerned about passing the tests, they won't pass any standardized tests.

[kimba1]

what you stated is not mentioned about public school
the wording is simply public school are no good
or underfunded
rarely is the exact problem stated
parents,supervisors are not mentioned as the problem
class size is debated to the point it`s hardly a issue
Don`t recall anybody talking about a school`s inability to punish students.
on the matter of books
why can`t a school which has a news deptment make thier own books.
shouldn`t a public school have exemption to copyright rules
if i recall right very few classes cover the whole book
so printing out neccesary chapter would help ensure every student has the require materials
or have a business class that actually sells something to incure an income
which the money defray cost
like those kids which sell candy that supposedly the money helps innercity kids

[Mr_Perceptive]

seem tobe some conflicting stuff going on here
I hear it`s next to impossible to fire a teacher
but here your stating teachers are hanging by a thread if they don`t teach well enough
is this regional context?
20/20 did a program showing how difficult it is to fire a poor performing teacher.
as a person who don`t teach,I`m guilty of not seeing why can`t a teacher get a overview of the test and drill the students for at least 1 semester on it.
as mentioned on this thread it`s not very hard.
but the very fact school are having trouble ,means I don`t know what I`m talking about

Here in Georgia, teachers lost tenure a few years ago, one of the primary reasons the Democrat Governor, Roy Barnes, lost his job. Even college professors with tenure must undergo a post-tenure review process once every five years.