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Pats spying on Jets?
« on: September 10, 2007, 11:49:42 PM »
Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com

NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.

The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said.

"The rule is that no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game," the league said in a statement from spokesman Greg Aiello. "Clubs have specifically been reminded in the past that the videotaping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals on the sidelines is prohibited.

"We are looking into whether the Patriots violated this rule."

The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game.

The league's competition committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets.

"It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

"From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."

A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment.

"With anything along those lines, those are all league-related matters, and anything that deals with an issue like this or anything on a team-by-team basis, those all go to the league," coach Eric Mangini said in his news conference Monday.

New England cornerback Ellis Hobbs said he was unaware of the controversy, and unwilling to believe his team had cheated.

"We put too many hours in as individuals and a team to have to go out and cheat," he said. "If it's true, obviously, we're in the wrong. But I'm standing behind my team, my coaches. I don't think we do that stuff."

Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN. Information from The Associated Press contributed to this story.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3012989&type=story

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Re: Pats spying on Jets?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 08:58:12 PM »
Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com

NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.

The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said.

"The rule is that no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game," the league said in a statement from spokesman Greg Aiello. "Clubs have specifically been reminded in the past that the videotaping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals on the sidelines is prohibited.

"We are looking into whether the Patriots violated this rule."

The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game.

The league's competition committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets.

"It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

"From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."

A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment.

"With anything along those lines, those are all league-related matters, and anything that deals with an issue like this or anything on a team-by-team basis, those all go to the league," coach Eric Mangini said in his news conference Monday.

New England cornerback Ellis Hobbs said he was unaware of the controversy, and unwilling to believe his team had cheated.

"We put too many hours in as individuals and a team to have to go out and cheat," he said. "If it's true, obviously, we're in the wrong. But I'm standing behind my team, my coaches. I don't think we do that stuff."

Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN. Information from The Associated Press contributed to this story.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3012989&type=story



This is interesting in that any competitive endeavor has automatic privledge to privacy during plans for operation.

I can't think of any sport which allows spying, but instead is against sports' organizational rules, and obnoxious to honor in general.

One who would thus spy does not understand sports.  And regarding role modelling for children in terms of honor, grace, honesty, character and brave heart, sports has contributed more than has all of American's religions.

One wonders if this new encroachment is a 'natural' progression of current trends regarding the competitive spirit.

Perhaps it came from watching the reality shows, with some first monkey deciding to employ 'anything goes' tactics in a real sport, one with rules of honor, unlike the current hyena-on-meth dynamics of competition in the corporate world.

I hear that ball a rollin'.

The great sports spirit in the sky is ashamed of our corporations' lack of anything more significant than "winning."

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Re: Pats spying on Jets?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2007, 11:21:01 PM »
>>I can't think of any sport which allows spying, but instead is against sports' organizational rules, and obnoxious to honor in general.<<

Does that go for stealling a catchers signs too?

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Re: Pats spying on Jets?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2007, 05:45:39 PM »
Should the Pats have had that win forfeited?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Pats spying on Jets?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2007, 02:12:05 PM »
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Should the Pats have had that win forfeited?

I think the fines and the censure were sufficient.

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Re: Pats spying on Jets?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2007, 02:15:59 PM »
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Should the Pats have had that win forfeited?

I think the fines and the censure were sufficient.

That does seem to be the concensus
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle