Evangelical groups make war on terror look like a Crusade

[_JS]

Oh Please!

Deuteronomy 25:11-12

11 "When two men are fighting and the wife of one intervenes to save her husband from the blows of his opponent, if she stretches out her hand and seizes the latter by his private parts,
12 you shall chop off her hand without pity.

Judges 19:24-25

24 Rather let me bring out my maiden daughter or his concubine. Ravish them, or do whatever you want with them; but against the man you must not commit this wanton crime."
25 When the men would not listen to his host, the husband seized his concubine and thrust her outside to them. They had relations with her and abused her all night until the following dawn, when they let her go.

1 Timothy 2:11-14

11 A woman must receive instruction silently and under complete control.
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
14 Further, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and transgressed.

[Richpo64]

Oh please, take it up with the Jews.

[_JS]

Oh please, take it up with the Jews.

You'll note that one of those was a New Testament book...

[sirs]

Point being Rich, each religion's "textbooks", have passages that would subjugate women & kill the "unclean"., passages that can be so easily applied to the 21st century.  The Bible does have it's "Bill of Rights", (10 Commandments) which has in there thou shall not kill, so it's ardent supporters can grasp the nuance of simply not going out and killing anything non-Christian.  I'm confident that Muslims have similar passages and commands to do such within the Koran, which leaves us the extreme militants of each religion as the folks we should be focused on, and not simply the religion of Islam

[Richpo64]

My bad.

Okay, so find an example of Jesus or an Apostle beating his wife.

[_JS]

My bad.

Okay, so find an example of Jesus or an Apostle beating his wife.

An interesting view of Christianity.

[Richpo64]

>>Point being Rich, each religion's "textbooks", have passages that would subjugate women & kill the "unclean"., passages that can be so easily applied to the 21st century.<<

They can? I think we can agree that Christianity is a forward looking religion. Through the ages it has reformed itself and addressed things like women's rights. Islam on the other hand is distictly backward looking. You may think that these passages in the Quran don't apply to modern Islam but all you have to do is open your eyes and see how they are treated in the majority of Islamic countries. Can you deny it? Listen to what the Mullahs preach every day and there can be no mistaking that Islam today DOES treat women as possesssions while Christian countries do not. Muhammed himself gave husbands permission to beat their wives and did so himself. We see images on television of Muslim men beating women on the street. Come on, who are we trying to kid?


>>I'm confident that Muslims have similar passages and commands to do such within the Koran, which leaves us the extreme militants of each religion as the folks we should be focused on, and not simply the religion of Islam<<

Your kidding yourself. These people's actions are rooted in their religion, how can you ignore that?

[Henny]

My bad.

Okay, so find an example of Jesus or an Apostle beating his wife.

Jesus beating his wife?? You'd better ask a Protestant to fill in the blank on that one.

[Richpo64]

Are you two being intentionally obtuse?

[Henny]

>>Point being Rich, each religion's "textbooks", have passages that would subjugate women & kill the "unclean"., passages that can be so easily applied to the 21st century.<<

They can? I think we can agree that Christianity is a forward looking religion. Through the ages it has reformed itself and addressed things like women's rights. Islam on the other hand is distictly backward looking. You may think that these passages in the Quran don't apply to modern Islam but all you have to do is open your eyes and see how they are treated in the majority of Islamic countries. Can you deny it? Listen to what the Mullahs preach every day and there can be no mistaking that Islam today DOES treat women as possesssions while Christian countries do not. Muhammed himself gave husbands permission to beat their wives and did so himself. We see images on television of Muslim men beating women on the street. Come on, who are we trying to kid?


>>I'm confident that Muslims have similar passages and commands to do such within the Koran, which leaves us the extreme militants of each religion as the folks we should be focused on, and not simply the religion of Islam<<

Your kidding yourself. These people's actions are rooted in their religion, how can you ignore that?

Bull! You see images in Afghanistan of women being beaten. Fundamentalist and extremist. This is not typical of the Muslim world.

[Henny]

Are you two being intentionally obtuse?

No, just thought it was funny.

Tell me, how much of the Bible tells you about the lives of the apostles with their wives?

[Richpo64]

>>Bull! You see images in Afghanistan of women being beaten. Fundamentalist and extremist. This is not typical of the Muslim world.<<

Hmmm ... define typical?

How would you know what goes on in Pakistani, or Iranian, or Jordanian households? Address what Muhammad teaches rather than skirting the issue.

[Richpo64]

>>Tell me, how much of the Bible tells you about the lives of the apostles with their wives?<<

Typical liberal.

 

[_JS]

Are you two being intentionally obtuse?

You realise that the population of Iran's Universities is 65% female?

That nation's like Pakistan have had female leaders, whereas we have not?

And we keep harping on about the hijab, but who has actually talked to Muslim women who wear the hijab or niqab and taken their views into account. Also note that Christian women of that region tend to wear similar coverings.

There are problems of women's equality in Islamic nations, no doubt. But, there are problems of women's equality in Christian and other nations as well.

[_JS]

>>Tell me, how much of the Bible tells you about the lives of the apostles with their wives?<<

Typical liberal.

 

This from the man who speaks of Jesus' wife!