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« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2007, 12:21:38 PM »
>>I think if you took your head out of your own ass, Rich, and travelled around some, you'd find that MOST PEOPLE in the "great big world out there" actually agree with ME<<

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Right.

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« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2007, 05:58:42 PM »
>>I think if you took your head out of your own ass, Rich, and travelled around some, you'd find that MOST PEOPLE in the "great big world out there" actually agree with ME<<

 :D

Right.

Thank God... he's right. And I think you know it too. That's what you're fighting so hard for. That's what David Horowitz is fighting so hard for. To change that opinion.

I think if we take the U.S. alone, without considering the rest of the world, you might be more right.

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« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2007, 06:23:54 PM »
Palomar College discussion aims to raise awareness about Islam

By: NOELLE IBRAHIM - Associated Press

SAN MARCOS -- "Islamophobia," or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, stems from fearing the unknown, Edgar Hopida, spokesman for the San Diego Council on American-Islamic Relations told a group of Palomar College students Wednesday.

"It's a very problematic mentality which takes root from centuries of misunderstanding," Hopida told the crowd after projecting some statistics on a screen.

Almost 60 percent of Americans are "not very knowledgeable" or "not at all knowledgeable" about Islam and nearly one-fifth admit to intolerant feelings toward Muslims, according to the council's 2006 survey of public opinion about Islam and Muslims.

 
Hopida said people who don't have any contact with Muslims tend to have a more negative view of Islam than those who have friends or coworkers who are Muslim.

About 30 students and community members gathered on Palomar's main campus Wednesday night to learn more about the religion and the concept of Islamophobia during Islam Awareness Week, jointly sponsored by Palomar and MiraCosta's chapters of the Muslim Student Association, which has more than 500 chapters at colleges and universities across the United States and Canada.

The dialogue was part of a series of discussions and question-and-answer sessions on topics ranging from the basics of the religion to Muslim and non-Muslim relations, which were held on campus this week to combat common misconceptions through education, said Hafifa Siddiq, president of MiraCosta's chapter who organized the event.

"We want people to make their judgements based on knowledge, not opinions and what they see in media," said Siddiq. "The Islamic perspective rarely gets much attention. We want to provide that representation."

During the discussion, Hopida outlined the roots of Islamophobia from the religion's inception to modern times.

"Islam was seen as a major challenge to Christianity from the beginning, not because it was new and different, but because it was too similar to the traditions of Christianity and Judaism," he said.

The prejudice against Islam and Muslims stems from misconceptions that have built up over time, including the ideas that the religion is monolithic and does not have any values in common with other religions, Hopida said. Muslims are wrongly viewed as violent, aggressive and supportive of terrorism, he said, images that have saturated mainstream media after Sept. 11, 2001.

"When 9/11 happened, people said, 'you see, they're barbaric, they're inhuman," Hopida said. "There's this perception that if one Muslim is bad, all Muslims are bad."

Palomar student Matt Fleming asked Hopida why organizations like the Council on American-Islamic Relations don't do more to publically denounce terrorist organizations.

"If you do the research and look online, you'll see we've condemned terrorism ... if you're harming an innocent life, that is wrong to us," Hopida responded. "The problem is no one listens. There's a truism in media -- if it bleeds, it leads."

Hopida then encouraged audience members to research mainstream Islam in books and online before applying broad judgements.

"We need to get beyond these stereotypes and rhetoric," he said, adding that the best tool to battle Islamophobia is knowledge.

Palomar student Jonathan Moore, 19, said he came to the discussion to understand Islam from the people who practice it.

"College is supposed to teach us to critically think" said Moore. "(Islamophobia) is based out of ignorance, misunderstanding and an unwillingness to listen, despite claiming open-mindedness."

Professor Sharon Allen of Palomar's multicultural studies department will lead a discussion on "Women in Islam" from 4:30 to 6 p.m. today in front of the student cafeteria to close out the week's activities.

-- Contact staff writer Noelle Ibrahim at (760) 740-3517 or nibrahim@nctimes.com.


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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2007, 06:25:51 PM »
Barriers to peace

By Sarah Dajani
Princetonian Columnist
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/10/18/opinion/19034.shtml

    What do al Qaeda, Hamas, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Muslim Students Association (MSA) all have in common? According to David Horowitz, they are all a part of the greatest threat facing America today: "Islamo-fascism."

    Horowitz, a neo-conservative polemicist, visited Princeton on Tuesday as part of "Islamo-fascism Awareness Week." The national event hit campus on the last day of Eid al-Fitr, the holy Muslim holiday celebrating the end of the month of Ramadan.

    According to an email from the Terrorism Awareness Project, "the purpose of this [event] is as simple as it is crucial: to confront the two Big Lies of the political left: that George Bush created the war on terror and that global warming is a greater danger to Americans than the terrorist threat."

    Interestingly enough, Horowitz' lecture said almost nothing about global warming and instead focused on a diatribe against various ethnic, political and religious groups from Democrats to Middle Eastern governments, from African-Americans to Muslims of any nationality. Among his outrageous claims was the statement that the majority of racism in America is aimed against white students attending universities like Princeton, an assertion he attempted to support by referencing last year's controversy involving the Duke lacrosse team.

    Perhaps the most malicious comments made by Horowitz, however, were those directed at Muslims. He persistently connected the religion of over 1.5 billion people to fascism, lumping together a diverse array of ethnic and political groups by using terms such as "Islamic Nazis," "barbarians" and "Islamo-fascism." Even more disturbingly, Horowitz made the claim that groups like al Qaeda and Hamas are comparable to American organizations such as CAIR and the MSA.

    Throughout his lecture, Horowitz unknowingly disproved his own claims by citing an inaccurate and selective history of the Middle East. He denied that the Arab-Israeli conflict centers on the issue of land and state and insisted that no Palestinian lands had ever been annexed. He also made the apocalyptic statement that Christians in the Middle East are "vanishing," a startling claim considering the existence of over 8 million Coptic Christian Egyptians, 1.4 million Lebanese Christians and 300,000 Christians in the West Bank.

    What are the implications of this sort of rhetoric for Princeton's campus? While rights of free speech must be adhered to, hateful speech from ideologues like Horowitz engenders an atmosphere that threatens the values of diversity and dialogue that the University strives to uphold. Beside being offensive terms that equate an entire religion with a totalitarian ideology, phrases like "Islamo-fascism" create the illusion that any Muslim or Islamic organization is suspected of having a violent and terrorist agenda.

This event snuck up on campus, with a whirlwind advertising campaign that started just a few days before it took place. Perhaps due to security concerns and Horowitz's less-than-gleaming reputation, the event had to be kept somewhat of a secret.

    Simply by inviting such an inflammatory speaker to campus, however, the college demonstrated their disregard for the possible consequences of such an event. When a speaker antagonizes African-Americans and Muslims and specifically attacks a neutral Princeton religious organization with incorrect and falsely evidenced claims, the possibility of hate crimes against Princeton students stemming from deliberate misinformation becomes a real concern.

    It is heartening that during the question-and-answer session, a diverse group of students stood up and combated Horowitz' claims with thoughtful and intelligent questions. And though his responses often resembled a temper tantrum, the audience remained calm and respectful for the most part.

    It is also worth noting that Muslim and non-Muslim organizations both on and off campus prepared a unified response to the event. A group of students who attended the lecture even wore green in protest of Horowitz' appearance on campus. In a letter to the Princeton MSA, board member Wasim Shiliwala '09 told Muslim students to be prepared for offensive language and inflammatory statements and recommended a calm and rational reaction.

    It remains to be seen what sort of repercussions the event will have on campus. Considering the substantial amount of interfaith work done on campus such as the Muslim-Jewish Dialogue and the MSA's Fast-a-thon, as well as intercultural efforts such as Sustained Dialogue and last weekend's Mela festival, it is unlikely that minority students on campus will face any explicit discrimination.

    Nevertheless, in light of events like these, it is crucial that Princetonians react in a unified way, denouncing any act, whether verbal or physical, that alienates and antagonizes another group of students on our campus. Only through this unity will we truly uphold the ideals of tolerance and cooperation crucial to an institution as diverse as Princeton.

Sarah Dajani is a Wilson School major from Seminole, Fla. She may be reached at sdajani@princeton.edu.

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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2007, 06:29:25 PM »
Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week
Christine Benlafquih 
October 17, 2007 08:11 AM
 
Muslim students, get ready. Next week you?ll find yourself in a position to defend your faith, publicly declare your opposition to terror, and denounce radicalism and the taking of innocent lives when Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week reaches college campuses beginning October 22. 

And since the oppression of women is slated as a major theme of Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, you?ll also have ample opportunity to convince students and faculty that you are just as horrified as them by honor killings, public stonings, genital mutilation, and whatever other atrocities are promoted as standard Islamic fare.

And if the underlying message of the week?s activities doesn?t strike you as particularly inciting or offensive, be aware that the program?s sponsors have also accused your Muslim Student Association of being a front for Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Whew. I?m sure glad my campus days are way behind me.  Then again, I wasn?t Muslim at the time and the political scene was made exciting by Geraldine Ferraro, not Al Qaeda. But I have to stop and wonder?is it possible that I might have been swayed by far-right propaganda if something like Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week had come to my campus?  It?s hard to say, but it 's reasonable to expect that some young minds are globally inexperienced and somewhat pliable.  It?s not that students can?t think for themselves; it?s just in the absence of counter-debate, seeds of doubt and bigotry might easily be planted.

And that seems to be the precise agenda of Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week ? to delude American youth that a sinister Muslim presence is amongst them.  Get them caught up in the passion of the moment, and help them to forget about seeking full perspective.

Of course, no one would come right out and say such a thing.  Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week is the brainchild of extreme right wing activist David Horowitz and his Freedom Center?s Terrorism Awareness Project.  According to terrorismawareness.org, ?The purpose of Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week is as simple as it is critical: to confront the two Big Lies of the political left: that George Bush created the ?war on terror? and that global warming is a greater danger to Americans than global jihad and Islamic supremacism.?   The group also charges that the academic left ?creates sympathy for the enemy and to fight anyone who rallies Americans to defend themselves.?

Yada yada.

With a roster of speakers like Ann Coulter, Daniel Pipes, David Horowitz, Dennis Prager, Sean Hannity, Robert Spencer, Rick Santorium and Wafa Sultan, I?m not convinced that a bigoted portrayal of Muslims isn?t about to take place.

An impressive list of participating schools ? Ivy League among them ? is posted on the Terrorism Awareness? website.  Perhaps its somewhat reassuring that, according to the MPAC, a handful of universities have already pulled out of the lineup due to the controversial and racist nature of the week?s events.

Too bad all schools don?t follow suit.


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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2007, 06:30:55 PM »
Protest fascism, not Muslims

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Ah, October. The time of year when the leaves are turning brighter colors, the skies are turning darker, and Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week is held on college campuses.

Don?t worry if you haven?t heard of the last one. I-F Awareness Week (which is how we?ll refer to it for reasons explained below) is ?the biggest conservative campus protest ever,? at least according to the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which is responsible for the week.

Ostensibly, the week is designed to confront the ?lies? the president created the current war on terror and that global warming is a greater danger to Americans than the terrorist threat.

You may be wondering how this translates into ?I-F Awareness Week.? We don?t really have an answer to that, and are tired of reprinting what the I-F Week guidebook says. Instead, we?re going to focus on the major problem with the week: The use of the Islamic faith as a scapegoat.

The reason why we abbreviated the name was because the use of the Islamic faith in this context is not only unnecessary, but also amounts to hate-speech. The problem with terrorists and those countries that support them has far less to do with religion and almost entirely to do with fascism.

For the purpose of this protest, we are assuming that fascism is taken to mean the repression of opposing ideas through terror and violence. This is a wonderful thing to protest against. We don?t support groups of people trying to force their views upon others through lies and obfuscations. If we were on the cusp of celebrating Fascism Awareness Week, you can rest assured this editorial would not exist.

But we?re not celebrating Facsism Awareness Week. Instead, they?ve lumped in Muslims with fascists, thus ensuring that we all protest beliefs held by people of the Islamic faith. Refer to the petition that is encouraged to be passed around during the week, which states in part that ?The Islamo-Fascist Jihad is a war against Gays ... [and] non-religious people.? If you?ll remember, 27 states have constitutional amendments barring gay marriage and there have been several attempts in recent years to adopt a national amendment doing the same. Additionally, when George H.W. Bush was campaigning for President in 1987, remarked ?I don?t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots.? It seems clear the opposition is not in conjunction with the issues. Instead, the entire week seems to be an opportunity to Muslim-bash under the auspices of fighting terrorism.

We support the right to free speech. The College Republicans have every right to go out and protest fascism in all its forms and support democracy and free speech.

We just wish they would.

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Re: Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week: David Horowitz Spreading Fear, Hatred
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2007, 07:39:27 PM »
Vocabulary of War
By David Horowitz

     The left is up in arms over the effort to hold an Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week on American college campuses. The goal of the Week is to alert Americans to the threat from Islamo-Fascism and to focus attention on the violent oppression of Muslim women under theocracies in Iran, Saudi Arabia, the Sudan and other Islamic states. It has been attacked as ?Islamophobic? and ?racist? by the Muslim Students Association, the Revolutionary Communist Party, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee and FoxNews Channel?s Alan Colmes.

 
            Is this not puzzling? Why would the left ? which claims to be anti-fascist, anti-sexist and progressive -- oppose Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week rather than support it? Why isn?t the left outraged by the genital mutilation of women in countries such as Nigeria, Somalia and Yemen, or the sanctioning of wife-beating under Islamic law in Pakistan and other Islamic states? Across America, Women?s Studies programs will teach students about the oppression of women in Peoria and Ann Arbor but not in Teheran or Riyadh. Why not?


            Why isn?t the left appalled by the jihad ? the holy war that has been declared against the West, and by the sanctifying of murderers as holy ?martyrs? when Muslim terrorists kill innocent Americans, Christians and Jews? Perhaps it is because the left is engaged in its own jihad or holy war ? and against the same targets: the Great Satan, America, and the little one in the Middle East.
 

            As the left?s response shows, it is not only indifferent to the issues of Islamic terror and oppression, which the campus protest hopes to discuss, it is ready to declare war on anyone who wants to raise them.
 

            We are all familiar with the way the left wages its political wars. If someone happens to disagree with its position on racial issues ?if one believes, for example, that government enforced racial preferences are misguided or immoral ?the left will denounce that person as a ?racist.? In our culture, this is the moral equivalent of a bullet in the head. If the president of Harvard cites scientific data that women have different aptitudes for mathematics (lower) and verbal subjects (higher) than men, the left will denounce him as a ?sexist,? another cultural bullet in the head. If a person believes that children should not be instructed about sex in public schools at the kindergarten level, the left will denounce her as a ?homophobe? ? one more mortal blow.

And, so, if students attempt to discuss the holy war that Muslim fascists have declared against the West, the left can be expected to denounce them as Islamophobes, and bigots too. To make the point, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee will send threatening letters to 100 university presidents across the country urging them to deny a platform to students who are practicing ?hate speech.? And liberal TV anchors will defend the witch-hunt.

             Here is an excerpt from an exchange that took place between FoxNews Channel anchor Alan Colmes and myself, over my efforts to organize Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week:

 Alan Colmes: ?The words, the phrase ?Islamo-fascism? is hate speech. It equates an entire religion with fascism. That?s what people object to. It conflates the two, and it?s wrong.? In other words, students can?t even hold a discussion about ?Islamo-Fascism? because the idea itself is hateful, is forbidden.

 This argument clearly doesn?t make sense. Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week is explicitly designed to raise public awareness about the oppression of Muslim women by Islamic radicals who abuse them. How can that be equating all Muslims with oppressors? The term ?Islamo-Fascism? was itself coined by moderate Muslims in Algeria who were being slaughtered in the tens of thousands by Islamic radicals bent on jihad. How does using a term invented by Muslims to describe their oppressors equate all Muslims with the fascists?

 Does the term ?Italian Fascism? equate all Italians with fascism? Or does it just identify those Italians who were followers of Mussolini? Is the term ?Italian Fascism? hate speech? What about the term ?white racism?? By Colmes? logic, such a term equates an entire race? including Alan Colmes ? with racism, and is therefore hate speech.

             Obviously, the attacks on Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week by liberals such as Colmes and radicals such as the Revolutionary Communist Party and the Muslim Students Association are based on reasoning that is absurd. Their only logic is emotional, and the character of that emotion is hatred -- hatred for those who want to raise awareness of the threats we face from radical Islam. This hatred has only one purpose, which is to put a metaphorical bullet in the head of those who oppose the jihad. The purpose is to silence them.


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« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2007, 07:40:47 PM »
'Fight fire with fire'
October 18, 2007
By Robert Stacy McCain -

Colleges and universities across the country are bracing for campus showdowns over "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week," which begins Monday, but has already sparked headlines nationwide.

The brainchild of conservative author David Horowitz, next week's calendar will feature speakers, panel discussions and other events aimed at heightening awareness of the ideology that motivates terrorist groups like al Qaeda and Hamas.

Mr. Horowitz will speak at Princeton University, the University of Wisconsin, Emory University, Columbia University and George Washington University. Other speakers scheduled for campus appearances as part of next week's event include Ann Coulter (Tulane University and the University of Southern California); Robert Spencer, author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" (Brown, DePaul and the University of Rhode Island); and former Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, who will speak at three universities in his home state of Pennsylvania.

Opponents are strongly denouncing the project.

The Revolutionary Communist Party called it "a Nuremberg Rally for the 21st century," while the Socialist Workers Party accused Mr. Horowitz of promoting "standard right-wing myths and stereotypes ... to demonize Arabs and Muslims, and justify U.S. war atrocities in the Middle East."

The Muslim American Society will hold a press conference today at the National Press Club to "announce its plan to initiate a national campaign called 'Students United Against Hate' " in response to Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week.

MAS official Ibrahim Abdil-Mu'id Ramey said his group intends to "bring together a large community of students and student leaders organized against racism and religious hatred ? especially the brand of hatred and intolerance exhibited by David Horowitz and his anti-Muslim and anti-progressive allies."

Provoking protest is nothing new to Mr. Horowitz, an ex-Marxist and a leader of the 1960s New Left who has been the target of pie-throwing incidents during his campus appearances as a conservative speaker. He doesn't mince words when describing his former ideological comrades.

"The left has only one strategy when dealing with its opponents, and that's to smear them," Mr. Horowitz, 68, says in a telephone interview. "They learned from Stalin."

His combative temper was riled last week when antiwar student activists at George Washington University covered the campus with anti-Muslim posters in a hoax targeted at the Young America's Foundation, which is co-sponsoring next week's events along with Mr. Horowitz's Terrorism Awareness Project.

Immediately after the posters appeared on the Foggy Bottom campus Oct. 8, and the responsibility was thought to lie with conservative students, GWU Student Association Executive Vice President Brand Kroeger said he "would support expulsion" of students responsible.

YAF spokesman Jason Mattera told powerlineblog.com that "when the fliers were first spotted, Young America's Foundation students were dragged into an administrator's office, presumed guilty, pressured ? unsuccessfully ? to sign a statement disavowing hate speech ... and hauled before a university 'peace forum,' where they were jeered at by fellow students."

On Oct. 9, however, seven students who said the posters were aimed at "exposing Islamophobic racism" took credit for the hoax, and the university said it had no plans to take disciplinary action against the hoaxers.

"The minute it turned out that leftists did it, it's OK, it's just a prank," Mr. Horowitz says.

The idea for Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week began earlier this year, he said, when administrators at Pace University in New York attempted to prevent students from showing "Obsession," a 2005 documentary about radical Islam.

"This is how close we are in America to shutting down free speech about the threat that we face," Mr. Horowitz says. In response, he organized Islamo-Fascism Awareness Day in April, which featured screenings of "Obsession" on 96 college campuses.

"When I saw that our students were ready to do something like that, I said, we're going to do an Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week in the fall," he says. "I approached other conservative groups like Young America's Foundation and the Leadership Institute and asked for their support, and they've provided it."

To the accusations of critics who say that the phrase "Islamo-Fascism" demonizes all Muslims, Mr. Horowitz responds, "Baloney. You mean you can't use the phrase 'Italian fascism,' because that smears all Italians?"

In a statement at his TerrorismAware.org Web site, Mr. Horowitz and Mr. Spencer quote the explanation of Algerian sociologist Marieme Helie Lucas that the term "Islamo-Fascism" was "initially coined by Algerian people struggling for democracy, against armed fundamentalist forces" who killed thousands of Algerian Muslims they regarded as "infidels."

Mr. Horowitz says conservatives should not tolerate accusations of "hate" from left-wing activists.

"We're not just going to sit and take it," he says. "We're going to fight fire with fire. They are the haters, and we're going to stick them with that."

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/news/96/fight-fire-with-fire/

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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2007, 12:01:49 AM »
On Tuesday I went to the bi annual diversity training class its manditory for all civil servants..

It was fun , how can I get Osama Bin Laden into one of these?

Is there an equivelent thing in the Muslem world somewhere?

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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2007, 12:27:36 AM »
On Tuesday I went to the bi annual diversity training class its manditory for all civil servants..

It was fun , how can I get Osama Bin Laden into one of these?

Is there an equivelent thing in the Muslem world somewhere?
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I would say, no.  There is no equivalent thing in the Muslim world that I am aware of.  Or let's assume for the moment there isn't.  Your question is not as innocent as it sounds.  It really means, "They don't tolerate diversity so why should we tolerate diversity?"

I would say, if diversity is a good idea, then promote it.  Don't let others define your values for you.

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« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2007, 12:32:56 AM »
I am starting to see that Horowitz and his Israel Lobby agenda may actually be a good thing in disguise, in the same way that a shot of polio vaccine inoculates children against polio.

In Horowitz, all of us can all see the ugly face of racism, fascism and Zionism.  It could be a stimulus for students of all races and religions to unite, to counter-organize, to meet their lies and half-truths with truths and whole truths.  Intellectual thugs like Horowitz can only be effective against the mind unprepared for their lies and bullshit, caught without answers.  Good preparation and cooperative effort should enable students of modest means and little time to spare on non-curricular studies to meed the Israel Lobby's well-financed and meticulously prepared assault on their academic freedoms head-on and effectively.

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« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2007, 12:41:14 AM »
On Tuesday I went to the bi annual diversity training class its manditory for all civil servants..

It was fun , how can I get Osama Bin Laden into one of these?

Is there an equivelent thing in the Muslem world somewhere?
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I would say, no.  There is no equivalent thing in the Muslim world that I am aware of.  Or let's assume for the moment there isn't.  Your question is not as innocent as it sounds.  It really means, "They don't tolerate diversity so why should we tolerate diversity?"

I would say, if diversity is a good idea, then promote it.  Don't let others define your values for you.

No ,you have read my mind unsuccessfully .

I do not know that there isn't such a thing in the Muslim world , how do you know that there isn't?

Th US goernment has officially endorsed diversity , could you tell me about diversity in Canada?

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« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2007, 01:57:20 AM »
<<Th US goernment has officially endorsed diversity , could you tell me about diversity in Canada?>>

Yes, it's called multiculturalism here. Don't get me started.

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« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2007, 09:40:57 AM »
I tend to think you are right Tee. Horowitz represents a real grasping at straws. Information flows much more freely now than it did in the 70's and 80's and even in the 90's. Israel thrived off of building a romantic image of a nation of oppressed people, who went to the desert and turned it into a productive land. They were the eternal underdogs, always surrounded by these horribly repressive (downright evil) Arab Muslim armies - available at a moments notice to invade. The wonderful, mostly white (at least in portrayal) Israeli had to stand vigilant.

The left was the first to love the Zionist. Possibly unbeknownst to many of the modern Evangelical right-wing American, who needs Israel to fulfill a dubious eschatological prophecy, the modern Israeli state was created by a collection of Marxists and Trotskyists. Golda Meir is a good example (her dislike of Christianity's role in persecuting Jews is also notable). The kibutzim were almost all begun by devout Marxists.

The right's love affair came later. It had more to do with the Cold War and later the dispensationalism of Evangelical Protestants.

Yet, as more and more people become informed, less and less people are able to defend the policies of the Israeli Government. This is especially true of the Governments that have followed the murder of Yitzhak Rabin, who was murdered by an extreme right wing Orthodox Jew.
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« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2007, 10:18:57 PM »
<<Th US goernment has officially endorsed diversity , could you tell me about diversity in Canada?>>

Yes, it's called multiculturalism here. Don't get me started.


Don't get you started?

That is the best fun I get.

Is the multiculturalism effort being done wrongly somehow?