Government finally admits: Immigration IS placing huge strain on Britain

[Christians4LessGvt]

"Why are waiting periods indefensible?"

it's because they can't run across the border and vote for hillary the next day so she can
give them a bunch of "free" stuff like education, medical care, child care, ect

step right up, get your free cradle to grave care

according to hillary "she has a million ideas, but the country can't afford them all"  

well flood the country with enough poor uneducated people

and those handing out freebies will get elected

it takes a village ya know

[_JS]

They are not equal across nations. They are far too long for many nations. They split families.

What does tha have to do with US law?

You are misunderstanding me. I mean that the waiting period is not equal across nations of origin, within US Law. In other words, some people will have a shorter waiting period based on their background, while others will have a long period.

Is immigration primarily driven by economics.

Quotas are primarily driven by economics. Or, if one is going to have them, they should be.

[BT]

You are misunderstanding me. I mean that the waiting period is not equal across nations of origin, within US Law. In other words, some people will have a shorter waiting period based on their background, while others will have a long period.

Are you saying an Indian emigre with a sought after skill is fastracked and a laborer from Nicaragua is not?

Frankly i don't have a problem with that.

[_JS]

"Why are waiting periods indefensible?"

it's because they can't run across the border and vote for hillary the next day so she can
give them stuff like education, medical care, child care, ect

according to hillary "she has a million ideas, but the country can't afford them all"  

well flood the country with enough poor uneducated people

and those handing out freebies will get elected

it takes a village ya know

Keep preaching it BNP brother:

[_JS]

You are misunderstanding me. I mean that the waiting period is not equal across nations of origin, within US Law. In other words, some people will have a shorter waiting period based on their background, while others will have a long period.

Are you saying an Indian emigre with a sought after skill is fastracked and a laborer from Nicaragua is not?

Frankly i don't have a problem with that.

What about a Canadian figure skater who can become a citizen in a matter of months to make the US olympic team, whereas other people wait years? That's fine in your book?

[sirs]

Keep preaching it BNP brother:

Yep, anyone that disagrees with open borders is now a racist nazi.  Brining it all the way down to knute level.  Congrats, Js

[_JS]

As you know Sirs, the Christians United for Less Government used and defended the BNP.

Using and defending the BNP opens the door. He had his chance to say that he made a mistake, but instead defended the group.

Now, do you wish to defend them as well? Do you agree with the BNP?

[BT]

What about a Canadian figure skater who can become a citizen in a matter of months to make the US olympic team, whereas other people wait years? That's fine in your book?

I am unaware of that case. Was she sponsored by a government official?

If i recall Senators and maybe congressmen can introduce bills granting citizenship.

[sirs]

Now, do you wish to defend them as well? Do you agree with the BNP?

Personally, I have no idea what "BNP" stands for, is, or what.  I'm simply pointing out a consistent trend, by yourself, in the supposed "criticism" of anyone who doesn't embrace open borders

[_JS]

What about a Canadian figure skater who can become a citizen in a matter of months to make the US olympic team, whereas other people wait years? That's fine in your book?

I am unaware of that case. Was she sponsored by a government official?

If i recall Senators and maybe congressmen can introduce bills granting citizenship.

Tanith Jessica Belbin. I believe it was an act of Congress and signed by President Bush so that she and her American partner could compete in the 2006 Olympics.

Kind of devalues the citizenship status when other hard working immigrants must wait years.

[_JS]

Now, do you wish to defend them as well? Do you agree with the BNP?

Personally, I have no idea what "BNP" stands for, is, or what.  I'm simply pointing out a consistent trend, by yourself, in the supposed "criticism" of anyone who doesn't embrace open borders

British National Party. I don't care about your alleged trends Sirs. The person I posted that to used a group that is a Fascist, Nationalist, and very racist party to make his points on how harmful immigration is. I pointed out what that group is and what they stand for (it is all in this thread). And what happened? I was attacked for it.

So, I feel no sympathy with those who hold such far right wing ideals. I have no problem responding to him in the way that I did. I will continue to do so. The BNP leader, Nick Griffin (a Holocaust-denier) even said that debate is pointless. So I see no reason to respond to irrational hatred with reasoned debate.

Why include yourself in with him, is beyond me. I'm not including you with that. By the way it was not just Nazis who said Jedem Das Seine...read some history for goodness sake. In fact, I hear people on the economic right use that phrase all the time. They just don't know that they are using it.

[Christians4LessGvt]

"Keep preaching it BNP brother"

yeah right

you already have sirs implying your "consistent trend" of thinking/implying he or
others are racist because they don't agree with you on immigration.

obviously it isn't about BNP
because you imply people are racist anyway
he nor I have ever even heard of BNP before this thread
quit living a lie and work on not being such a bigot

[Christians4LessGvt]

"defended the BNP"

LIAR
CATCH YOU PANTS ON FIRE
PLEASE SHOW WHERE I DEFENDED BNP?
LIAR
CATCH YOUR PANTS ON FIRE

[_JS]

Go hug your picture of Nick Griffin.

[sirs]

Personally, I have no idea what "BNP" stands for, is, or what.  I'm simply pointing out a consistent trend, by yourself, in the supposed "criticism" of anyone who doesn't embrace open borders

British National Party. I don't care about your alleged trends Sirs.

Not my trend, that'd be yours.  I'm just gonna sit back and watch each time the discussion is about open borders vs border enforcement, how often the nazi rascist card is played. 

Why include yourself in with him, is beyond me. I'm not including you with that.

Why of course.  Your response to my post, in bringing up racists & fascists in this thread apparently had nothing to do with my response.  Pure coincidence