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Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« on: November 05, 2007, 01:27:30 PM »
No Fairness Doctrine for PBS
How Taxpayer-Funded Broadcasting Is "Surging" Left Under Democrats

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY


    The Democratic takeover of Congress in 2007 quickly made one definitive change in the national media infrastructure. For the first time since Newt Gingrich became speaker in 1995, America's public broadcasting system didn't have a skeptical majority party that might sporadically ask questions about PBS using the taxpayer-funded airwaves for overt liberal activism. In previous years with Democratic control of Congress, PBS has played a more activist role within the media, dragging the rest of the national media further to the left and spurring more aggression and ill will against conservative and Republican leaders. Just as 2007 has been a year for a "surge" of troops in Iraq, it's also been a year of "surging" activism within PBS.

    At the same time, Democratic congressional leaders now in the majority have been entertaining the idea of reviving a federal "Fairness Doctrine" which would require private broadcasters to comply with notions of balancing out each station's daily schedule of news, talk, and public-affairs programming. These same Democrats have been highly offended at the idea that anyone outside or inside taxpayer-funded broadcasting would monitor PBS content for fairness or balance.

    Despite taking federal money from all taxpayers, PBS stations across America often air programs and documentaries that tilt decidedly to the left. In funding filmmakers to go out and make one-sided left-wing films and talk programs, public broadcasting subsidies serve, in effect, as ideological pork-barrel spending. While conservatives like Frank Gaffney have seen their films stripped from the national PBS schedule due to his activist "day job," liberal activism is not eschewed at PBS, but encouraged. In this analysis, the Media Research Center outlines three trends that herald an increasing misuse of public television against American conservatives:

- Bill Moyers and His Impeach-Bush Bandwagon. Partisanship was redefined as statesmanship when the latest reincarnation of the PBS program Bill Moyers Journal devoted an hour of supportive air time on July 13 to two guests who agreed that President Bush and Vice President Cheney urgently need to be impeached. Even PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler found the show wasn't remotely balanced in its zeal to abort the Bush presidency, reporting "there was almost a complete absence of balance."

- Tavis Smiley Campaigns Against the GOP.  PBS authorized Tavis Smiley, who hosts a nightly natonal talk show out of Los Angeles PBS station KCET, to organize two presidential debates at black colleges in 2007. The Democratic debate in June was overtly friendly and barely made a national ripple. But in September, Smiley grew furious when four Republican front-runners decided to skip the GOP debate right before the third-quarter campaign fundraising deadline at the end of the month. He skewered the candidates before, after, and during the debate on PBS, and also took his anti-GOP outrage to other TV networks. On his PBS show, he asked if the no-show Republican candidates "will pay" and suggested the empty podiums he set up to dramatize their absence will be props in Democratic campaign ads in 2008.

- The "Independent" Television Service.  ITVS, a left-wing filmmakers' collective with its headquarters located in Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco district, draws about $15 million a year from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting to make films supporting their statement of values that "a civilized society seeks economic and social justice." Taxpayers have funded a long list of films knocking the Bush administration's policies, celebrating leftist agitators, and promoting "progressive" sexual politics. Nurturing a new generation of liberal filmmakers, and not conservative filmmakers, is the mission of ITVS.

    The report concludes with some simple recommendations for public broadcasting executives. Since public television is supported by taxpayers of all political stripes, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting ought to live up to its mandate to monitor content for objectivity and fairness. Calling for impeachment of Republican presidents with one-sided panels doesn't help make PBS look fair. If public broadcasters want to moderate presidential debates, its moderators ought to display fairness and balance toward both political parties. If the system funds liberal filmmakers, it ought to fund conservative filmmakers as well, and not just serve as a political organizing tool for one side. The nation's PBS stations should reflect the diversity of its whole audience.


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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 03:25:54 PM »
This is bullshit, utter bullshit. PBS reflects the full gamut of thought in America. There might be more films by "conservative filmmakers", but they are quite rare.

Bill Moyers gives all sides a fair chance in his interviews, which Rush clearly does not. Tavis Smiley reflects the views of a majority of Black Americans. I imagine he would be most happy to interview Clarence Thomas, if Clarence Thomas were to be willing to do an interview.

The thing is that the Juniorbush position is indefensible. Juniorbush and Cheney look like sh*t and fell in it. They mongered a useless and unwinnable war, which Cheney acknowledged would be useless and unwinnable back in the days of the First Gulf War. Then they srewed it up further with the de baathification program. They didn't know what they were doing and seem to have yet to learn.

For PBS to make them look good would require some sort of miracle. They live mostly off charitable contributions, so you don't have to contribute. I doubt that your share of the PBS budget would pay for half a cup of joe at Starbucks.


If you don't like PBS, don't watch it.
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 03:28:36 PM »
This is bullshit, utter bullshit. PBS reflects the full gamut of thought in America.....Bill Moyers gives all sides a fair chance in his interviews, which Rush clearly does not

LOL.....yea, riiiiiiiiiight

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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 03:39:21 PM »
Rush tells callers and guests "It's MY SHOW!"
Moyers doesn't do that, ever. Perhaps if you watched, you would know this.
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 04:48:41 PM »
Rush tells callers and guests "It's MY SHOW!"

It is, and yet he STILL takes all calls from all viewpoints.  Perhaps if you listened, you would know this


Moyers doesn't do that, ever.

Moyers pushes HIS opinion on the show, just as Rush does on his, which is vastly liberal vs Rush's conservative opinion.  Difference is Moyer's is being subsidized by a vast # tax payers who don't agree with him.  Rush isn't.  So again, the left wants to push so called "fairness" aimed at talk radiom, while it hypocritically defends TAX subsidized opinions from the left that refuses to push an equal representation of ideological thought and positions.  Thanks again for helping to make my point, Xo
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 05:28:34 PM »
Your point is nonsense, actually. The contribution of any taxpayer to PBS is under $2.00 per year. You will find more pennies in the gutter in a month than your contribution to Moyer's show, and Moyer simply asks questions of his interviewees. If you don't know what he does, and I suspect you do not, then perhaps you could watch and see that what he does is greatly different from what Limbaugh does. Limbaugh does not ask questions: he tells his admiring throng of knucklewalking dittoheads what to think. There is no similarity between Limbaugh and Moyer.

And Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest of your fave ratwing pundits are getting a free ride, as the airwaves belong to the public, and Clkear Channel is making a huge bundle from allowing these programs on the air.

It is not hard to find someone to push the views of the oligarchy. There are hundreds of potential Limbaughs that would sell their mothers for what they pay Limbaugh. Moyers is NOT a member of the Oligarchy and does not ditto their party line and is doing a great public service by pointing out just how the oligarchy is screwing every single Ameroican, which includes even you.

Just because you enjoy being duped and screwed by the Oligarchy does not mean it is good for you.
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2007, 05:34:11 PM »
And Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest of your fave ratwing pundits are getting a free ride, as the airwaves belong to the public, and Clkear Channel is making a huge bundle from allowing these programs on the air.

If they're public, why does Clear Channel et. al. have to pay the FCC to use them, then?
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2007, 05:49:27 PM »
I think you will find that PBS and NPR stations pay as well.

One pays gasoline taxes to ride the highways.

The airways require some supervision, and the government provides this, to assure that the clear channel remains clear.

If I ran the FCC, I would permit no more than 10 minutes of commercials per hour and would award the licenses based on the principle of the greatest public good. I don't think corporate shills like Limbaugh would be allowed on for nearly as long as they are on now.

There are way too many hideously awful AM and FM stations these days. Too many ads, too many preachers, too much crapola advertised. Limbaugh is hardly the worst. Morning drivetime traffic nitwits and their bazillion commercials are far worse in my opinion. I don't listen to commercial radio becaue I deem it sucks. Most of the time I listen to NPR and most of the time I enjoy it.

All I ask is to be able to listen to what I like in return for dittoheads listening to whatever crap Rush is spewing.
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2007, 05:54:55 PM »
Have you ever noticed the paint job on a NASCAR Racer?

Building such an excellent machine takes a lot of money, and NASCAR fans know it , they patronise the sponsors of their favoriate car teams and even the competeing teams , thus the track has plenty of well financed teams .


Should there be a Government NASCAR team?



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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2007, 08:11:15 PM »
Is Media Research Center stating that PBS and NPR would not be subject to a fairness doctrine if passed?


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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2007, 08:31:27 PM »
Is Media Research Center stating that PBS and NPR would not be subject to a fairness doctrine if passed?

Given Xo's response, I think that's the logical deduction.  I think it's more what's likely vs what's being claimed.  That's my guess
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2007, 09:12:21 PM »
I think you will find that PBS and NPR stations pay as well.

So, they're getting a "free ride" as well?
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2007, 06:42:15 AM »
Have you ever noticed the paint job on a NASCAR Racer?


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They are absolutely hideous and distract from any enjoyment I might get from watching a race.
They are the visual version of the complete awfulness that is AM radio.
This is the epitome of ugliness in advertising and wretched excess, and I bet the fans would like it just fine if the hideous suits and ghastly cars had no ads on them at all.

I don't think NASCAR is actually entertaining to watch, but the ads are a total distraction, and I am glad that this sort of crap is limited to NASCAR.
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2007, 11:32:30 AM »
I don't think NASCAR is actually entertaining to watch, but the ads are a total distraction, and I am glad that this sort of crap is limited to NASCAR.

And every other sport pretty much in the world...
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Re: Again, only applicable when it doesn't effect them
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2007, 12:43:45 PM »
Nowhere is the level of ads as ghastly as NASCAR.

Tiger Woods drives a Buick and wears just one swoosh.

NASCAR seems to have no limit to ugly logos.

All logos are ugly when accompanied with another dozen of the damned things.
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