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Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« on: November 13, 2007, 01:25:06 PM »
Dean Broder?s double standard
Posted November 12th, 2007 at 3:19 pm

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I don?t care that Rudy Giuliani is a thrice-married serial adulterer. I care that there?s one level of scrutiny for Democratic presidential candidates, and an easier one for Republicans, when it comes to personal lives.

Greg Sargent notes today that the Washington Post?s David Broder chatted with readers late last week, and there was a brief-but-interesting exchange.

    New York: Will you and the media ever apply as much scrutiny to the Giuliani marriages as you have done to the single Clinton marriage?

    David S. Broder: I plan to leave both subjects alone.

Is that so.

About a year ago, the NYT published a 2,000-word, front-page dissection of Bill and Hillary Clinton?s marriage. It contained no real news, few named sources, and plenty of gossip masquerading as political coverage. Observing that the Clintons typically spend 14 days of each month together ? hardly unusual for a couple that includes a senator and a peripatetic former president ? the Times opted for the half-empty conclusion that the two lead ?largely separate lives.?

Just 48 hours later, it was none other than David Broder who devoted his column to the Clintons? marriage. In fact, the day before his piece ran, Broder heard Hillary Clinton deliver a substance speech on energy policy. Broder said he was bored and wanted to hear more about the senator?s marriage. In fact, Broder concluded that the failure of reporters in the post-speech Q&A to grill Hillary about her personal relationship with her husband was the ?elephant in the room.?

But now the Dean of the DC media establishment plans to leave both marriages alone. How big of him.

Greg added that Broder has devoted quite a bit of energy to the Clintons? marriage, during Bill Clinton?s presidency and after.

    As recently as two months ago ? Sept 6, 2007 ? Broder wrote that the Clintons? marriage was the most important political fact about Hillary. ?Her marriage is the central fact in her life, and this partnership of Bill and Hillary Clinton is indissoluble,? Broder wrote. ?She cannot function without him, and he would not have been president without her. If she becomes president, he will play as central a role in her presidency as she did in his. And that is something the country will have to ponder.?

    On May 25, 2006, Broder devoted nearly a whole column to that notorious front-page piece by Pat Healy in The Times that documented the state of their marriage in almost comically absurd detail. Broder was very sympathetic to the piece, saying that it showed that ?the drama of the Clintons? personal life would be a hot topic if she runs for president.? If Broder thought the Clinton wasn?t fair game here in any way ? or disapproved of the level of attention The Times gave to the Clinton marriage in that piece ? he certainly didn?t say so.

    And back when it really counted ? when the GOP tried to impeach Bill Clinton over his affair ? Broder thought the Clinton marriage was completely fair game. He wrote multiple columns at the time arguing that his affair threw his entire character and even fitness for the Presidency into question.

Broder, like his colleagues, has analyzed and scrutinized the Clintons? marriage for years, but now that a thrice-married serial adulterer who is a Republican is running for president, Broder has decided he?s above this sort of thing. The Democrat deserved the personal inspection, but the Republican deserves a free pass. The one who stayed with his wife should be dragged through the mud, while the one who flaunted his adultery and announced his divorce in a press conference (before telling his wife) should have his privacy respected.

The shameless hackery is breathtaking.

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 01:29:50 PM »
So?
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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 01:37:05 PM »
So?

This , of course , would not seem important to another adulterer and/or wife stealer, would it?

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2007, 01:42:00 PM »
Life's unfair.

Broder is a hypocrit.

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 01:44:32 PM »
<yawn>
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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2007, 03:00:03 PM »
Let's see if we can get this straight now.

After years of lobbying for no fault divorce liberals now view it as a character flaw?

Being gay is wonderful unless you're a Republican?

Oral sex isn't sex?

Increases are cuts?

There's something else I've noticed. Has anyone else noticed how every time Mrs. Clinton is asked a tough question (which is rare), re always replies that she knows nothing about whatever the question may be? It was the same when she was c0-president. Does anybody really think she had no idea that questions were being planted for her to answer? It's really not a big deal, but what is a big deal is her denial. Same ole story, same ole song and dance.

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2007, 03:30:55 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 03:43:04 PM »
Let's see if we can get this straight now.

After years of lobbying for no fault divorce liberals now view it as a character flaw?

Being gay is wonderful unless you're a Republican?

Oral sex isn't sex?

Increases are cuts?



Well deduced, Rich    ;)   And don't forget, free speech and criticism is applauded, unless performed by a Conservative talk show host, and being a Black Female Christian Conservative as akin to being a member of Hitler's SS
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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 10:12:56 PM »
I think it's a reasonably sound conclusion that David Broder, newly converted to the privacy rights of married couples when it comes to their marital relationship, is not going to be commenting further on either the Clinton marriage or the multiple Giuliani marriages.  How commendable.

This should certainly not prevent others from focusing on the Giuliani marriages.  That many Americans are fascinated by such stories and deserve to know all about them is amply demonstrated by the intensive coverage formerly devoted by Broder and the NYT to the Clinton marriage.

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 10:19:53 PM »
I think it's a reasonably sound conclusion that David Broder, newly converted to the privacy rights of married couples when it comes to their marital relationship, is not going to be commenting further on either the Clinton marriage or the multiple Giuliani marriages.  How commendable.

This should certainly not prevent others from focusing on the Giuliani marriages.  That many Americans are fascinated by such stories and deserve to know all about them is amply demonstrated by the intensive coverage formerly devoted by Broder and the NYT to the Clinton marriage.


Yea go on and have fun with that.

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 10:32:27 PM »
<<Yea, go on and have fun with that.>>

Thanks, I hope someone does.  Since the obviously partisan Broder thinks this would hurt Rudy, it seems kind of unfair to leave Rudy to enjoy whatever unfair advantage he derived from the sliming of the Clinton marriage, when the unfair advantage can be wiped out by equal-time sliming of the Giuliani marriages.

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 10:40:17 PM »
<<Yea, go on and have fun with that.>>

Thanks, I hope someone does.  Since the obviously partisan Broder thinks this would hurt Rudy, it seems kind of unfair to leave Rudy to enjoy whatever unfair advantage he derived from the sliming of the Clinton marriage, when the unfair advantage can be wiped out by equal-time sliming of the Giuliani marriages.

I am thinking about the Damage done the Clintons career thereby , if Guliani gets damaged half so badly he can be president for life.

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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2007, 10:43:42 PM »
I think it's a reasonably sound conclusion that David Broder, newly converted to the privacy rights of married couples when it comes to their marital relationship, is not going to be commenting further on either the Clinton marriage or the multiple Giuliani marriages.  How commendable.

This should certainly not prevent others from focusing on the Giuliani marriages.  That many Americans are fascinated by such stories and deserve to know all about them is amply demonstrated by the intensive coverage formerly devoted by Broder and the NYT to the Clinton marriage.


Yea go on and have fun with that.



Any American who gives prioritus consideration for qualifying for the presidency to marriage has no business pretending they have qualifications to cast an informed vote.  

The fact that there are so many confirms Mencken:  "Boobus americanus."

I forget who said it on Matthew's Hardball, but paraphrasing here, regarding Rudi's goose-stepping mentality, 'people ought to be more concerned about Rudi putting them in prison, literally, for not paying their credit card payments.'  This when the credit card industry has adopted the operating procedures of Henry Morgan.

I think the best way to cripple Rudi is to continue to suggest that he looks for all intents and purposes like Nosferatu.


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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2007, 11:22:23 PM »
Giulani is a warmongering rightwing asshole. This was revealed by his hiring a passel of neocons that were previously rejected by Juniorbush.
His opinions on gays and abortions do not make him any sort of moderate.
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Re: Please, no bright lights on the Rudy marriages
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2007, 11:59:55 PM »
Giulani is a warmongering rightwing asshole. This was revealed by his hiring a passel of neocons that were previously rejected by Juniorbush.
His opinions on gays and abortions do not make him any sort of moderate.


Stalin would not be left enough for you to call a moderate.