Surrendering to Radical Islam

[Michael Tee]

<<As for America allowing Israel to exist, Israel doesn't need America, they do very well on their own thank you. >> 

Great!!!  Then they won't need the American taxpayers' $3 billion annual handouts any more, will they?

[Plane]

<<As for America allowing Israel to exist, Israel doesn't need America, they do very well on their own thank you. >> 

Great!!!  Then they won't need the American taxpayers' $3 billion annual handouts any more, will they?

When their opponents stop getting major money they won't need so much either.

That is one of the benefits of Saddams reduction.

On the other hand when Egypt went off the enemys list , it showed up on the Aid recipients list, Iraq may be simular , even though Iraq has more potntial to be self supporting.

[Henny]

>>The silliness of this article is beyond belief.  It's obvious that the Zionists depend on ever-increasing hostility between Musliims and America if Israel is to be permitted not only to exist but to rip off Arab lands and ethnically cleanse the West Bank ... <<

Israel does exist, and has every right to exist. Palestine is a figment of your imagination. As for America allowing Israel to exist, Israel doesn't need America, they do very well on their own thank you. Ever hear of the Six Day War? 

That didn't work out so well in the end. They're still fighting that war to this day.

[The_Professor]

>>The silliness of this article is beyond belief.  It's obvious that the Zionists depend on ever-increasing hostility between Musliims and America if Israel is to be permitted not only to exist but to rip off Arab lands and ethnically cleanse the West Bank ... <<

Israel does exist, and has every right to exist. Palestine is a figment of your imagination. As for America allowing Israel to exist, Israel doesn't need America, they do very well on their own thank you. Ever hear of the Six Day War? 

That didn't work out so well in the end. They're still fighting that war to this day.

However, if Isreal would have lost this war, they would literally be in the history books. Think the neighboring Arab states would have had any mercy? Are you advocating that this result should have transpired instead?

[Henny]

>>The silliness of this article is beyond belief.  It's obvious that the Zionists depend on ever-increasing hostility between Musliims and America if Israel is to be permitted not only to exist but to rip off Arab lands and ethnically cleanse the West Bank ... <<

Israel does exist, and has every right to exist. Palestine is a figment of your imagination. As for America allowing Israel to exist, Israel doesn't need America, they do very well on their own thank you. Ever hear of the Six Day War? 

That didn't work out so well in the end. They're still fighting that war to this day.

However, if Isreal would have lost this war, they would literally be in the history books. Think the neighboring Arab states would have had any mercy? Are you advocating that this result should have transpired instead?

I disagree with your conclusion.

And I am not advocating anything - not sure where you got that.

[The_Professor]

No one will really know what might have happened. Isreal will indeed continue to fight for what God gave them in the Old Testament until the End. Most of them know that. My friends who live there know that. It is sometimes The Way of Things.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Jeez, God didn't give the Jews Israel. Or perhaps he gave it and them took it away in punishment. That's in the Bible, too.
You could be one of those folks who believe anything they were taught before age 10.
I can't see where any sane Supreme Being would claim that a muddle as confusing as the Bible (or the Koran) was his holy and  infallible word.Perhaps you should read the whole thing with a moderately critical eye before you believe this proposition.

But let us suppose that (1) God really did give them said real estate, and (2) he wants them to keep it.

Now if God is omnipotent, then why do I have to pay taxes so my government can help them keep it? Is God so puny that he needs the help of the USA to keep his promises?

And, no, this is not an antisemitic statement.

 

[Richpo64]

>>Great!!!  Then they won't need the American taxpayers' $3 billion annual handouts any more, will they?<<

It's not a handout actually. We get a return on our investment, which can't be said for money given to "Palestine." But I'd be happy to terminate all foriegn aid "handouts," especially to countries who laugh at us when they cash the checks.

[Richpo64]

>>That didn't work out so well in the end. They're still fighting that war to this day.<<

Didn't work out so well? Considering the aim of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria was genocide I'd say it worked out pretty well For Israel. Unless by not working out so well you think genocide would have been better.

[Henny]

No one will really know what might have happened. Isreal will indeed continue to fight for what God gave them in the Old Testament until the End. Most of them know that. My friends who live there know that. It is sometimes The Way of Things.

With respect, Professor, the debate kind of ends here. If you believe that they are entitled for religious reasons and that is the most important issue at stake, then there is no use in debating politics.

[Henny]

>>That didn't work out so well in the end. They're still fighting that war to this day.<<

Didn't work out so well? Considering the aim of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria was genocide I'd say it worked out pretty well For Israel. Unless by not working out so well you think genocide would have been better.

No I don't think that genocide would have been better, but I also don't believe it would have happened. I am quite confident that the U.S., Britain, etc., would have stepped in and made sure that Israel won the war.

[The_Professor]

>>That didn't work out so well in the end. They're still fighting that war to this day.<<

Didn't work out so well? Considering the aim of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria was genocide I'd say it worked out pretty well For Israel. Unless by not working out so well you think genocide would have been better.

No I don't think that genocide would have been better, but I also don't believe it would have happened. I am quite confident that the U.S., Britain, etc., would have stepped in and made sure that Israel won the war.

Well, at least you didn't disagree that the Arabs would have committed genocide. Thank you.

[The_Professor]

No one will really know what might have happened. Isreal will indeed continue to fight for what God gave them in the Old Testament until the End. Most of them know that. My friends who live there know that. It is sometimes The Way of Things.

With respect, Professor, the debate kind of ends here. If you believe that they are entitled for religious reasons and that is the most important issue at stake, then there is no use in debating politics.

Expected response. It's all cool...

[Richpo64]

>>No I don't think that genocide would have been better, but I also don't believe it would have happened. I am quite confident that the U.S., Britain, etc., would have stepped in and made sure that Israel won the war.<<

I see. So you believe the Arabs would have committed genocide had the Israelis not kicked their ass or failing that American intervention. Doesn't say much for the Arabs does it?

[Xavier_Onassis]

It's not a handout actually. We get a return on our investment, which can't be said for money given to "Palestine." But I'd be happy to terminate all foriegn aid "handouts," especially to countries who laugh at us when they cash the checks.
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The "return" on our investment to Israel takes the form of hostility towards the US from every country in the Middle East, and many other countries around the world. Had the US not been funding the Israeli colonization fo the WB, there would have been little probability that the US would have been attacked on 9-11 or that Juniorbush could have mongered that war in Iraq.


It is a negative investment. Often the US only has two other countries on its side in the UN: Israel and the Federation of Micronesia.

We get less than nothing for supporting Israel.