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The_Professor

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Re: Dear Children
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2007, 04:46:01 PM »
"For the Lord God of Israel says that He hates divorce, 'for it covers one's garment with violence,' says the Lord of hosts. 'Therefore take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously'" (Malachi 2:16).

"There are NO SCRIPTURAL GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE.  In Matthew 5:32, Jesus said, "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."  Carefully notice that Jesus never gave anyone permission to divorce because of adultery.  What Jesus said is that a man would not be responsible for causing his wife to commit adultery, if she was ALREADY committing adultery.  How could he be?  To divorce your spouse is a sin, and you will also be responsible for their sinning if they remarry.  But you can't be held responsible for causing your spouse to commit a sin that they're already committing.  This is all Jesus meant.  If committing adultery is grounds for divorce, then Matthew 5:28 gives every wife Biblical grounds to divorce.

Let me also say, If Jesus was willing to be despised and rejected of men, beaten to a pulp, mistreated, scorned, assaulted, spit upon, and crucified to death ... FOR US ... then we should follow Christ's example when our spouse does the same things to us...

Divorce is a sin for a couple reasons:

1.  Because you are breaking your marriage vows..."'til death do us part!"  When you say your wedding vows, you are making a lifetime commitment.  I don't care if you get married at city hall or church, God still holds you accountable for your promises and commitments.  A promise is a promise! 

2.  Because God said so!  "Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." -Matthew 19:6

God hates divorce!   It is only because of our sinful pride and selfish ways that we end up divorced in the first place.  It is so typical to hear a divorced wife, or husband, talking about how much they gave but never received anything in return.  Listen friend, marriage is not a 50/50 deal as most people would lead you to believe.  No!  Marriage is a 100% deal.  We are supposed to give 100% to our spouse, even if they only return 10%.  But you say, "That's not fair!"  You're right ... life's not fair!  We are a spoiled bunch in America!  It's sickening to know that over 50% of all marriages in America are now ending in divorce.  It's our pride!  "No one is going to treat me like that!"  "I love him but he's just too mean."  'I'm wasting the best years of my life."  If your husband is a tyrant, then you leave him until he goes for help ... but don't sin against him and God by filing for divorce.  If you need money for support, get a job like everyone else!  Also, why is he getting angry?  People usually get angry for a valid reason.  It's utterly hypocritical for a stay-at-home wife--who loafs, lies, and lacks any interest in fulfilling her wifely or motherly duties, to run file for divorce when her husband finally blows up in anger and crosses a line.  You hypocrite!  You push his buttons every day by telling him you'll do better; but you never do.  Then you take the easy way out by filing for divorce.  And to add insult to injury, you use the court system to take away his children, his house, his paycheck, his dignity, and his life.  Who's the monster?...In closing, divorce is a sin and should never be considered an option in any marriage.  The divorce rate in America is skyrocketing because of sinful pride.  It is the same sinful pride that fuels abortion, murder, homosexuality, witchcraft, gambling, pornography, and every other sin imaginable."


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Family/Marriage/divorce_is_a_sin.htm
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Re: Dear Children
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2007, 07:25:08 PM »
>>It would appear that there is some need of an annual holiday of mass consumption and unbridled greed.<<

I suggest that people who worship mass consumption and greed are not the norm. I'd suggest that they are the atheists and unbelievers who have the gall to actually celebrate the holiday in their cheap and taudry way.



I heard a couple of local news shows talking about the fears of a slow Xmas, and how, hopefully, this was averted locally by businesses offering added bonuses and deals during the day after Thanksgiving, referred to as "Black Friday."  Black Friday, the reporters said, was the busiest shopping day of the year."

 When queried about the total percentage of a company's sales occuring at Xmas time, the figure was an astounding (to me) 40%, with variations, and toys' more than 60%.

This means that 40% percent of a companies sales revolve around 25 Dec., one day.

This adds dimensions to some sides of the argument.

Whatever anyone says about how holy Xmas is or is not, one in good conscience has to add the 40% figure, as it could factor into many "stances", including the one that suggests that it is, after all, a pimp's grand dream.

This issue conflicts me more than most.

Clearly Xmas is used to the bone for profit.

But I also remember mine, starting with pine changing the house, not to mention the cornucopia, and though I am sick with the truth of knowing it, I am crushing a pine needle from the yard to make me feel ok again.

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Re: Dear Children
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2007, 10:18:27 AM »
Could there be a combination of the two, e.g. a holiday where BOTH are satisfied (consumerism and holiness)? Or, do we have that situation present today?
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Re: Dear Children
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2007, 03:51:04 PM »
Sorry, dude, but materialism is at all all-time high just as other ills such as divorce are. As an example, the divorce rate for Christians is just as high as it is for non-Christians. And this is present even though many Christiians still suspect God will punish them for their divorce, even if they divorced for issues such as spousal abuse, emotional and/or physical and so on...

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Divorce is higher because (a) women can get jobs that pay well, (b) people live LOTS longer and (c) women can get educated and be far more productive than back in the days when the only career choice was farmer's wife.

Advertising plays a huge part in the commercialism of both women and Christians in general. The ideal is to be young-looking and sexy.
In Biblical times, the ideal look was to look distinctly unyoung and unsexy, like Moses, with his long beard and itchy clothing.





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Re: Dear Children
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2007, 12:28:24 AM »
>>Could there be a combination of the two, e.g. a holiday where BOTH are satisfied (consumerism and holiness)? Or, do we have that situation present today?<<

There are those who celebrate Christmas for the right reasons, and then there are those who don't. Professor, I wouldn't worry about a couple of atheists who look for any reason they can think of, or just make up to put down Christians. They aren't worth the time it takes to say, Merry Christmas.

I hope you and yours have one.

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Re: Dear Children
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2007, 05:58:20 AM »
>>Could there be a combination of the two, e.g. a holiday where BOTH are satisfied (consumerism and holiness)? Or, do we have that situation present today?<<

There are those who celebrate Christmas for the right reasons, and then there are those who don't. Professor, I wouldn't worry about a couple of atheists who look for any reason they can think of, or just make up to put down Christians. They aren't worth the time it takes to say, Merry Christmas.

I hope you and yours have one.

Well said