Henry Hyde, RIP

[Amianthus]

And in your world, a raped woman is required to wait nine months for an adoption thjat might or not occur?

Why wait? Most women who are going that route start the process early in the pregnancy, and allow the adoptive parents to be involved - indeed, many adoptive parents actually pay many of the expenses during pregnancy.

Although you never answered the question. You just assume that a woman who is raped will have to support a child for 18 years. Do you think that adoption does not happen?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Why wait? Most women who are going that route start the process early in the pregnancy, and allow the adoptive parents to be involved - indeed, many adoptive parents actually pay many of the expenses during pregnancy.


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Er... the reason the raped woman must wait  nine months is because that is how long the rapist's seed within her requires to become an actual adoptable baby.

Adoption sometimes exists, for some people.

Not for everyone always.

If the raped woman wants to have the baby and have it adopted, that is just fine by me.

It's you guys that want to FORCE her to have the baby.

Or in your world, does a woman have no rights to not be pregnant?

[Plane]

Why wait? Most women who are going that route start the process early in the pregnancy, and allow the adoptive parents to be involved - indeed, many adoptive parents actually pay many of the expenses during pregnancy.


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Er... the reason the raped woman must wait nine months is because that is how long the rapist's seed within her requires to become an actual adoptable baby.

Adoption sometimes exists, for some people.

Not for everyone always.

If the raped woman wants to have the baby and have it adopted, that is just fine by me.

It's you guys that want to FORCE her to have the baby.

Or in your world, does a woman have no rights to not be pregnant?

This is the opposite end of the spectrum from Partial Birth Abortion.

At one end there are only a few hard core people who would insist that a rape victim must not end a pregnancy.

At the other end there are really few who are fine with the idea of the killing of the baby being leagal as long as its face is still hidden even if viable in ever other way and seconds from its first healthy breath.

Extremists run to these extremes in order to justify their unwillingness to compromise  and their intrangedince at possession of the whole spectrum.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Just give people their rights. That is never extreme.

Everyone should have the absolute right to reproduce or not to do so, period. A fetus has no right to be born, period.

If men got pregnant, no one would make an issue of this.


The term "Partial Birth Abortion" is a stupid propaganda term and does not belong in any rational conversation.

[Amianthus]

Er... the reason the raped woman must wait  nine months is because that is how long the rapist's seed within her requires to become an actual adoptable baby.

Funny, I know of a number of examples where the adoption was completely handled early in the pregnancy, with only the actual transfer of the baby to the new parents awaiting birth.

Adoption sometimes exists, for some people.

Not for everyone always.

There are many people that cannot adopt in this country and must go outside the country to adopt (my sister being one case, with two adoptions outside the US). They tried to adopt from within the US, but were unable to do so. Does this indicate a shortage of available adoptive parents? Seems to me it indicates the opposite.

It's you guys that want to FORCE her to have the baby.

I don't remember ever saying that. Care to provide a link to a quote?

Or in your world, does a woman have no rights to not be pregnant?

In your world, the baby has no rights?

[sirs]

Or in your world, does a woman have no rights to not be pregnant?

In your world, the baby has no rights?

In their world Ami, it's just a bunch of misorganized cells & protoplasm, they'll frequently refer to as a fetus   

[Plane]

Just give people their rights. That is never extreme.

Everyone should have the absolute right to reproduce or not to do so, period. A fetus has no right to be born, period.

If men got pregnant, no one would make an issue of this.


The term "Partial Birth Abortion" is a stupid propaganda term and does not belong in any rational conversation.

If I assert my right to kill someone , maybe you, how would you argue with my right to kill?

Perhaps I have compelling reasons to avail myself of this right.

[Richpo64]

>>In their world Ami, it's just a bunch of misorganized cells & protoplasm, they'll frequently refer to as a fetus.<<

While that's true, I think that liberals/socialists simply aren't interested in anything that might take some effort or anything that might inconveniance them. So they wave it away as a bunch of cells which has no more meaning than a finger nail.