I had a lightbulb go off.......To the religious left, Ceasar (representing Government) IS God....at least in earthly manifestation. It'd answer alot, such as the disconnect between Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasars, and render unto God that which is belongs to God with "The Church does not believe that the money you have is yours but that it is a blessing from God and ultimately belongs to Him. There is no question of ownership" and how folks like Js can actually even fathom the notion that Jesus would support the forced taking of what belongs to someone, in order to give it to someone else.
Of course, maybe, hopefully, he's differentiating between what "the Church" believes and what is truely God's intentions, as relayed thru the Bible. Let's hope that's the case
*sigh*
You cannot understand the difference between the temporal and the celestial? Clearly that was what Christ was saying when He said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God's.
I cannot have this conversation if you are unwilling to think beyond such basic terms as you've outlined here (and insulted the Church as well).