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Please don't do that
« on: January 16, 2008, 06:24:27 PM »
[What school did these people go to? What are they teaching in ethics courses now?  Why was no nurse acting as his patient advocate? ]

'Please don't do that': Man says NY hospital forced rectal exam

Associated Press

 January 16, 2008 - 10:56 AM

NEW YORK -

A construction worker claimed in a lawsuit that when he went to a hospital after being hit on the forehead by a falling wooden beam, emergency room staffers forcibly gave him a rectal examination.

Brian Persaud, 38, says in court papers that after he denied a request by NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital emergency room employees to examine his rectum, he was "assaulted, battered and falsely imprisoned."

His lawyer, Gerrard M. Marrone, said he and Persaud later learned the exam was one way of determining whether he had suffered spinal damage in the accident.

Marrone said his client got eight stitches for a cut over his eyebrow.

Then, Marrone said, emergency room staffers insisted on examining his rectum and held him down while he begged, "Please don't do that." He said Persaud hit a doctor while flailing around and staffers gave him an injection, which knocked him out, and performed the rectal exam.

Persaud woke up handcuffed to a bed and with an oxygen tube down his throat, the lawyer said, and spent three days in a detention center.

A request by the hospital to dismiss Persaud's lawsuit was denied by Justice Alice Schlesinger, who ordered a trial to start March 31.

Hospital spokesman Bryan Dotson said, "While it would be inappropriate for us to comment on specifics of the case, we believe it is completely without merit and intend to contest it vigorously."

Persaud's lawsuit, filed in Manhattan's state Supreme Court, seeks unspecified damages. A judge dismissed a misdemeanor assault charge against him.

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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 06:37:54 PM »
If one must have a rectal exam it is probably better to have it take place in a hospital, rather than a jail.


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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 07:24:52 PM »
He probably would not have ended up in jail if they had not forced the rectal exam upon him. Said he didn't learn until later why they wanted it - maybe they should have told him beforehand. There is such a thing as informed consent.
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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2008, 07:28:54 PM »
What is the problem here? They did it for his own good. Who gives a damn whether or not he consented to it?

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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2008, 07:34:46 PM »
The hospital should give a damn. They might end up working for him.  ;)
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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2008, 07:37:31 PM »
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Said he didn't learn until later why they wanted it - maybe they should have told him beforehand. There is such a thing as informed consent.

agreed

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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2008, 09:13:05 PM »
What is the problem here? They did it for his own good. Who gives a damn whether or not he consented to it?

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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2008, 09:20:39 PM »
uhm
if the hospital wins
doesn`t this mean all hospital has a legal right to do any exam to anybody without consent .
make one scared to got to the hosptal
don`t it

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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2008, 09:21:52 PM »

I posit that freeing politics of all sarcasm would be like firing Janis Joplin and hiring Marie Osmond.


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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2008, 10:14:35 PM »
i actually agree this guy could have a claim

if this guy was conscious, of sound mind, and demanded no rectal exam for a cut
over his eye treatment and was willing to sign a waiver that he refused the exam
then the test should not be done. i find more and more doctors and nurses having
a "shut up your the patient and don't know squat" attitude.

i am also sick of these situations like we have on airplanes where a flight crew,
or airline supervisor basically says "i dont give a damn what the people want
I am not letting them off this plane".
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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2008, 11:41:16 PM »
People are allowed to refuse food,  medicine, surgery,  etc.  Being a patient does not mean you give up your rights.

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Re: Please don't do that
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 02:10:21 PM »
as someone who recently been to a ER.
i gotta admit I see no priority given to patient rights
if a test is needed it`s pretty done in a way that the patient is not given time to think it over.