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Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« on: January 23, 2008, 08:01:40 PM »
Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth

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Lou Dobbs says a stimulus package won't prevent a recession
Our leaders have squandered the nation's wealth, he says
Dobbs says mistakes of past 25 years have led to this crisis

By Lou Dobbs
CNN
Lou Dobbs' commentary appears weekly on CNN.com.

NEW YORK (CNN) -- President Bush's assurances that we'll all be "just fine" if he and Congress can work out an economic stimulus package seem a little hollow this morning.

Much like Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke's assurances last May that the subprime mortgage meltdown would be contained and not affect the broader economy. And it seems Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has spent most of the past year trying to influence Chinese economic policy rather than setting the direction of U.S. economic policy.

There is no question that Bush, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will quickly come up with an economic stimulus package simply because they can no longer ignore our economic and financial crisis. That economic stimulus plan will amount to about 1 percent of our nation's gross domestic product, an estimated $150 billion.

But all of us should recognize that the stimulus package will be inadequate to drive sustainable growth in our $13 trillion economy. An emergency Fed rate cut and an economic stimulus plan are short-term responses to our complex economic problems, nothing more than bandages for a hemorrhaging economy.

Bush, Pelosi, Reid and the presidential candidates of both parties have an opportunity now, and I believe an obligation, to adjust the public policy mistakes of the past quarter-century that have led to this crisis. And only through courageous policy decisions will we be able to steer this nation's economy away from the brink of outright disaster.

We all have to acknowledge that our problems were in part brought on by the failure of our government to regulate the institutions and markets that are now in crisis. The irresponsible fiscal policies of the past decade have led to a national debt that amounts to $9 trillion. The irresponsible so-called free trade policies of Democratic and Republican administrations over the past three decades have produced a trade debt that now amounts to more than $6 trillion, and that debt is rising faster than our national debt. All of which is contributing to the plunge in the value of the U.S. dollar.

At precisely the point in our history in which this nation has become ever more dependent on foreign producers for everything from clothing to computers to technology to energy, our weakened dollar is making the price of an ever-increasing number of imported goods even more expensive.

All Americans will soon have to face a bitter and now obvious truth: Our national, political and economic leaders have squandered this nation's wealth, and the price of this profligacy is enormous, and the bill has just come due for all of us.

Bernanke endorsed the concept of a short-term economic stimulus package, but he cautioned that the money must be spent correctly: "You'd hope that [consumers] would spend it on things that are domestically produced so that the spending power doesn't go elsewhere."

Just what would you have us spend it on? The truth is that consumers spend most of their money on foreign imports, and any stimulus package probably would be stimulating foreign economies rather than our own. Imports, for example, account for 92 percent of our non-athletic footwear, 92 percent of audio video equipment, 89 percent of our luggage and 73 percent of power tools. In fact, between 1997 and 2006, only five of the 114 industries examined in a U.S. Business and Industry Council report gained market share against import competition.

And let's be honest and straightforward, as I hope our president and the candidates for president will be: This stimulus will not prevent a recession. It may ease the pain for millions of Americans, but a recession we will have. The question is how deep, how prolonged and how painful will it be. Unfortunately, we're about to find out how committed and capable our national leaders are at mitigating that pain and producing realistic policy decisions for this nation that now stands at the brink.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the writer.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/22/Dobbs.January23/index.html 
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Plane

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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 08:15:28 PM »
Stimulating foreign economies isn't bad.

The connection is so tight now that we can't do well while they fail.

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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2008, 09:25:08 PM »
Here's an interesting graph:

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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2008, 09:33:05 PM »
I notice that this graph doesn't include unempoyment rates , or any of the other things that are going well.

Note that the number in poverty is a flat number not correctiong for the growth in population during the period , as a percent ,the drop in poverty would not make the desired point.

Cherry picking mostly.
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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2008, 10:58:14 PM »
I also notice the graph didn't include a link.

Shouldn't thinkprogress get credit where credit is due?

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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2008, 11:24:17 PM »
<<I notice that this graph doesn't include unempoyment rates , or any of the other things that are going well.>>

Oh, what other things are going well?

<<Note that the numbe in povrty is a flat number not correctiong for thegrowth in population during the period , as a percent ,the drop in poverty would not make the desired point.>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
U.S. population figures from 2000 (there was no 2001 census) to estimated 2007 are all there.  I calculated the 7-year population increase, made an assumption that it was uniformly distributed and reduced the increase by 1/7 to get the increase for the six years 2001 to 2007 for comparison to Lanya's graph.  Over those six years, the population increased by 6.5%.   Had the number of people living in poverty increased by the same 6.5% over the 2001 base-line, we could have expected to have 33.6 million living in poverty in 2007; but thanks to the brilliant performance of the Bush administration, it seems you have 36.5 million impoverished instead.  Well done, George!

<<Cherry picking mostly.>>

Yeah, cherry picking.  Lanya lays out a graph with 17 different measures of the magnitude of the Bush disaster, YOU come up with one stat (unemployment rates) and one INVALID criticism (of the poverty figures) and you claim it's Lanya who's cherry-picking here?   Give me a break.  It's pretty obvious who's picking the cherries here, and one out of the two you picked turns out to be rotten.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2008, 11:26:18 PM by Michael Tee »

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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2008, 11:25:16 PM »
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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2008, 11:34:26 PM »
http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/032007/pov/new01_100_01.htm

Percent lveing below poverty level 2007 -   12.3%

http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/031999/pov/new01_001.htm

Percent lveing below poverty level 1999-   12.7%


This is not a big change , but it would not be a big change if negative either , I doubt that the margin of error was ovecome.

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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 11:48:46 PM »
Percent lveing below poverty level 1999-   12.7%
This is not a big change , but it would not be a big change if negative either , I doubt that the margin of error was ovecome.
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I guess what you'd need to know is how the data had been trending in the years leading up to 1999;  if there had been steady reductions in poverty, then the fact that Bush held the line is a negative, because you'd have to compare the percentage living in poverty in 2007 with what the percentage would have been had the trend established in the Clinton years of steadily declining poverty been allowed to continue through to 2007.


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Re: Dobbs: Our leaders have squandered our wealth
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2008, 12:22:42 AM »
Percent lveing below poverty level 1999-   12.7%
This is not a big change , but it would not be a big change if negative either , I doubt that the margin of error was ovecome.
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I guess what you'd need to know is how the data had been trending in the years leading up to 1999;  if there had been steady reductions in poverty, then the fact that Bush held the line is a negative, because you'd have to compare the percentage living in poverty in 2007 with what the percentage would have been had the trend established in the Clinton years of steadily declining poverty been allowed to continue through to 2007.

http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/031995/pov/1_001.htm

The info online only goes back to 1995.

When it was 14.5%

During the dot com boom and early in the Mexican influx.

A president can't really produce a boom and his ability to controll  immgration is limited.

So the best evidence here merely proves that neither Clinton nor Bush did anything to ruin good trends.

The government isn't the main strength of the American economy , the economy would probly be stronger if the government were less involved.

BTW the percent of Vietnameese liveing below the Aerican poverty level is 98%.

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2008, 11:15:55 AM »
BTW the percent of Vietnameese liveing below the Aerican poverty level is 98%.

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They are not living in the US, paying US rent, paying US prices for food. This is almost totally irrelevant.

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The government isn't the main strength of the American economy , the economy would probly be stronger if the government were less involved.

Yeah, sure. What we got when the government was less involved were crippling depressions about every dozen years, the last of which was 1929-1936. You appear to be less acute at speculation than the average bear.
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