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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18793339

NATION
Iraq Vets Charged with Murder of Fellow Soldier

by John McChesney

 A soldier who had survived two tours in Iraq and had been sent home after suffering traumatic brain injury was murdered in December in Colorado Springs near Fort Carson, Colo. Army Spc. Kevin Shields was killed, according to police, by three fellow soldiers who had served with him in Iraq.

People in Colorado Springs were shocked and puzzled. Some contend that the alleged killers were just bad apples. Others questioned whether the accused should have been allowed to join the Army in the first place. The Army said the alleged shooter had post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD. It is still unclear how that diagnosis will play out as the case goes to court.

Shields was out celebrating his 24th birthday the night he was shot. He had been sent home from Iraq with traumatic brain injury and was waiting for a medical discharge. His mother, Debra Pearson, lives in Roscoe, Ill., where Kevin grew up.

Pearson recalled the night she learned of her son's death. "I talked to my mom," she said, "and we had decided that at 12:30 I was going to call him with her and wish him a happy birthday. That didn't happen. At 11:15, I got the call that he'd been killed."

Shields had been shot in the face, the neck and the groin with a 38-caliber pistol. The night before, he had been out drinking in downtown Colorado Springs with three Army acquaintances, Louis Bressler, Kenneth Eastridge and Bruce Bastien.

Police quickly picked up Bastien, who began to talk. In a document filed with the court by the district attorney, Bastien said he and the other men had gotten so drunk that they had to stop the car at least twice to vomit.

According to the document, after one of those stops, Bastien said he was walking back toward the car when "he saw Louis Bressler shoot Kevin Shields. Kevin Shields immediately fell to the ground. ? Bressler then walked over to where Kevin Shields was lying and shot him four more times."

Bressler, the alleged shooter, had been sent home early from Iraq because he had been diagnosed with PTSD. He had received a medical discharge and was taking medications.

Ominous Signals in MySpace Pages

In fact, we know quite a bit about the suspects because they all had MySpace pages. Bressler and his wife, Tira, both have pages there, which Bressler's lawyer, Ed Farry, describes as "a kind of prototypical page by young people in America today."

"Both he and his wife discuss their adoration of each other," Farry says. He adds, "It doesn't show any of the pathologies that ? where certain other Web pages show ? where people are contemplating bad acts."

True, Bressler and his wife do express their mutual affection on their MySpace pages. But dig a little deeper and there are ominous signals. For instance, the headline on Bressler's page reads "Chillin an Killin."

Tira Bressler's moniker is Devil's Angel, and buried in her dozens of online photos is a picture of a 38-revolver with five shiny bullets in front of it. Police say Shields was killed with a revolver like that. Bressler was raised by his father in Charlotte, N.C., and did not graduate from high school.

'Killin Is Just What I Do'

And then there's Kenneth Eastridge, whose MySpace page is most chilling. His headline is "Killin is just what I do." There are plenty of pictures of his tattoos: the slogan "born to kill" and a Nazi SS insignia on one arm.

Michael De Yoanna reported on military affairs in Colorado Springs for a local paper, the Independent, and has looked at many military personnel Web pages. He says most are designed to convey reassurances to families.

"What I'm seeing here is a stark contrast," De Yoanna said. "I'm seeing violent statements and a tattoo that's hard to construe any way [but] as racist."

Such tattoos are forbidden by the military.

One photo shows Eastridge in uniform holding a cat with a gaping wound. The caption reads: Killed another Iraqi pussy. Another shows Eastridge holding both an M-16 and an AK-47 in his room in Iraq. The caption reads: Ready for Whatever.

The AK-47 is not issued by the U.S. military, but it is commonly used by Iraqi insurgents. "This is a weapon that should have been turned over to higher commanders and stored," De Yoanna said.

Relating to 'Real Life'

Defendant Bastien told police that he saw Eastridge fire at Iraqi civilians with an AK-47 to make it seem like enemy fire. The Army's Criminal Investigative Division has investigated and so far has not been able to substantiate that charge. Eastridge earned a Purple Heart while in Iraq. His high school near Louisville, Ky., says he dropped out.

Less information is known about Pvt. Bruce Bastien, who is from Fairfield, Conn., because his MySpace page is kept private. He has a wife and daughter. He came home on personal leave from Iraq, where he was a medic, and was then held over by the Army because of a charge of domestic violence. Bastien is still on active duty.

Bastien's court-appointed lawyer, Rick Bednarski, would only say this about the case.

"I think the military is sending kids over to fight a war, and then coming back and not giving them the right treatment in order to get them to relate back to real life, rather than life back in Iraq," Bednarski said.

Shields' family finds it hard to believe that Kevin survived two tours in Iraq, only to be killed by fellow soldiers on American soil. Kevin's grandfather, Ivan Shields, raised him from age 3, after Kevin's mother got involved in an abusive marriage. Like lawyer Bednarski, he believes the military is mismanaging soldiers' return to civilian life.

"We just feel that the commander out there of that base don't have too good a control over these people," Ivan Shields said. "I thought they run a tighter ship than that."

Questioning Army Admissions

Fort Carson officials say they can't comment on the case while it is under investigation.

Kevin Shields' mother, Debra Pearson, believes the problem isn't so much what happens to soldiers after they get back from Iraq, but how they got in the Army in the first place.

"I believe Bressler and Eastridge had mental problems even before they enlisted," Pearson said. "I just feel that what I know of their background, they weren't very good people before they went in. And I guess I feel that they should have been screened closer before joining."

There is no evidence that any of the three had mental problems before enlisting. Whether they should have been screened more closely before enlisting may emerge as the investigation proceeds.

The PTSD Factor

There is, however, the issue of Bressler's Army-diagnosed PTSD.

PTSD has been used as an explanation, if not an excuse, in other criminal cases. But Bressler's attorney, Farry, says he won't do that.

"I'm of the opinion that the fact that he does have post-traumatic stress disorder has been used successfully by some of the codefendants in this case," Farry said.

Farry thinks Bastien and Eastridge have fingered Bressler as the triggerman because they think a jury would believe him most likely to have committed a seemingly senseless murder.

Unfortunately, there's more to this sordid affair. Bressler and Bastien have also been charged with the murder of Pvt. 1st Class Robert James. Bressler allegedly gunned James down in a parking lot as James begged not to be hurt. James was robbed of $45.

Police say the three defendants in the Shields murder case may have committed or planned other crimes as well. What may be argued out in court is whether this is just a group of thugs who shouldn't have been in the Army in the first place, or a group unable or unwilling to put aside the mindset they forged in combat.

 


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Every war brings the proverbial 'chickens home to roost', as Malcolm X once said. A society that sends men off to violent acts will always have a greater number of violent men (and even worse, accurate at sniping men) than a society that does not. This is why war should always be the very last alternative, as it clearly was not in Iraq, which had no way of delivering its imaginary WMD's to American soil.

Wars cause men (perhaps women too, though I have not seen evidence of this) to become more violent, more proficient at hitting targets with bullets, and more likely insane. Of course, a person could become all these things at their own expense in civilian life, but this would be rather rare.

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Absolutely hilarious.  They want to recruit an army of thugs and killers, so who did they think was going to answer the call?  Students of Greek philosophy?

A sick and abnormal society goes out of its way to find its sickest and most abnormal members, gives them a wide variety of weapons and careful instructions on how to kill with them or anything else at hand.  This is the ultimate consequence of an all-volunteer army.  Who but the sickest fuck in the class, the guy with the lowest scores and the poorest mental health, is going to volunteer for an organization whose only purpose in life is to kill and maim other human beings?

Of course, it would be really different were the country really under attack, or defending civilization from some organized military force like the German or Jap forces of WWII, in which case, you'd have an army of citizen soldiers drawn from all walks of life and intelligent enough to realize that this really was a battle against the forces of evil.  In today's army, you will get either psychopaths looking for the thrill of the kill or morons of such low-grade intelligence that they actually believe the official bullshit that the countries that the U.S. invades are actually receiving a great gift from Amerikkka and/or "they hate us because of our freedom."  Either way, putting weapons into the hands of morons or and/sadists like these is not a good idea and I agree wholeheartedly with Knute, is going to have some serious repercussions for the folks on the home front.  Maybe this is the revenge that is owed to the people of Iraq, dispensed not by an International War Crimes Tribunal, but simply by karmic law on the unsuspecting citizens whose tax dollars paid to nourish the psychopathy.

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The NYTimes did a story about this bit about Iraq Vets being more prone to violent crime, and it was  completely debunked.

http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/the_new_york_times_frags_veter.php


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<<The NYTimes did a story about this bit about Iraq Vets being more prone to violent crime, and it was  completely debunked. >>

I think it's kind of cute and even touching that there are still people who read the New York Times and even believe the stuff they read in there.  That's so 1950s.

The New York Times also ran a whole series of stories by one Judith Miller, citing anonymous sources, that proved conclusively that Saddam Hussein was sitting on a shit-pile of Weapons of Mass Destruction and the whole fucking sky was about to cave in.

The New York Times also ran a whole bunch of articles by a star reporter called Jason Blair, about events which, as it turned out, never even happened.

The New York Times DIDN'T run a whole investigative series on illegal surveillance of the American people because they didn't want to influence an upcoming election.  Nor did they run the Pentagon Papers story or the My Lai Massacre story when they had them, because they didn't want to seem "unpatriotic."

But please - - quote the NYT all you like in here.  I don't really get much time for reading fiction and I guess this is as good a chance as any.

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Mikey,

Perhaps you should reread the link. The Times was debunked. They were spouting your position and the numbers just don't back them.


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I think it's kind of cute and even touching that there are still people who read the New York Times and even believe the stuff they read in there.  That's so 1950s.

Mikey,Perhaps you should reread the link. The Times was debunked. They were spouting your position and the numbers just don't back them.

OUCH        :D
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Sorry, BT, I missed the link.  And I don't read the Times any more, precisely for the reasons I stated.  Maybe they're trying to regain some of their lost credibility. It just doesn't matter.   I don't trust 'em and I'm not gonna waste my time on them

However, I did read the "debunking" - - it also was a shabby job, more or less worthy of the same amount of respect as I give the NYT's work these days.  They're assuming the 121 homicide cases found by the Times are all the returned-vet homicide cases there are, of which there is no credible guarantee, there is no attempt to measure if homicidal vets get a break in the form of reduced-to-manslaughter charges from sympathetic cops or prosecutors and no attempt to analyze the combined homicide+manslaughter rates of returned vets to compare with the general population.  Also we don't know how much of the existing returned-vet carnage is occurring in what were previously relatively low-crime areas, such as the small towns that these vets are statistically likely to come from.

Either way, it is painfully obvious that these three vets are very typical of the type of recruit that you would call "low-hanging fruit" or "easy pickin's" for the recruiter.  I believe just on general principles (who else would volunteer for this kind of shit?) that what we have here are some typical soldiers, nothing more, nothing less.   Nothing good is going to come of this army and the preliminary investigations are tending to bear this out.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2008, 02:23:50 PM by Michael Tee »

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Now you are just babbling.


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I did like how he tried to reinvent the credibilty of the Times, on a dime        ;D
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Nobody can "reinvent the credibility of the Times."    It's gone.

That doesn't mean every single word they print is a lie.   What they described made sense to me.  The alleged "debunking" was very sloppy. 

The bottom line is, we're left with the cases cited by the Times, a "debunking" which is highly flawed on first reading and the common sense that tells us, putting dangerous weapons into the hands of a bunch of misfits and losers doesn't often turn out well.


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And yet non veterans have a higher rate of violent criminal acts per 100,000 than vets do.


Go figure.





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<<And yet non veterans have a higher rate of violent criminal acts per 100,000 than vets do.>>

I hope you have some stats to back that up that don't come from the "debunking" article you linked to.  I read through it, and it has holes you can drive a truck through  It proves absolutely nothing about the relationship between the military and violence at home. 

Bottom line is that each case cited in the Times seems to be a genuine case of violence by a returned vet - - both the Times and the Standard (source of the debunking article) agree on at least that much.

The Times did not claim that its list was exhaustive - - as far as I can see from the material.  Furthermore, the complaint that the Times included not only vets convicted of murder but vets accused of murder is invalid.  Since the criminal courts operate on the assumption that "better to let 9 guilty men walk free than to hang one innocent," it's a fairly safe bet that most of the individuals charged with murder actually did it.  The proper statistical analysis would probably be to count all the vets charged, but not convicted, reduce by the percentage of wrongfully charged, and add to the total of vets convicted.  Compare their rate with the rate of non-vets, charged (minus the allowance for wrongful charges) plus convicted, over the same period.

Furthermore, not all soldiers are performing the same duty.  Take the psychos who patrol the streets, kick down the doors, take the prisoners, shoot up the traffic, etc. - - the active operatives of the force, so to speak; and check THEIR homicide rate against the general population.  Why include the REMFs, the guys who never go outside the Green Zone, or similar non-combat roles?

I think the Times made a clear case of chickens coming home to roost, one that somebody tried to debunk with statistics, but the effort to debunk just didn't succeed. 

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That's an impressive report but it's counter-intuitive.

Probably not asking the right questions.  I think the civilian side is weighted by a large component of permanent underclass who if there were a draft would be 4-F but in any event are incapable of military service, did not serve and could not serve. 

If they were pulled out of the equation, the criminals who are capable of meeting minimal army standards, whether they served or not, would be the only individuals participating in the survey.  Then you would see, among men or more or less equal mental and physical capacity, but dividing between vets and non-vets, which group commits the greater number of violent crimes per capita.  Conducted as it was, the survey tells us nothing about the likelihood of Iraq vets coming back and unleashing a new wave of violent crime.