<<No the longer it goes on the further back men that live in the 1400's fall farther behind.>>
Maybe that would be true if the world really were rapidly changing, but it's not changing all that fast and the mullahs aren't standing still either. They too can move with the times and their system is more flexible than you give it credit for. It accommodates various factions of religious leaders, some more liberal than others, some who despise Ahmadinejad, others who don't.
<<The world is rapidly changing and they are being left behind.>>
Do you know anyone who's been to Iran lately? I do. The dress codes have lightened up and the bearded guys who whip women in the streets for indecent dress aren't anywhere near as prevalent as before. People hold house parties in Teheran with alcohol and women in skirts and they aren't afraid of the morality police, at least not in the more affluent areas. It ain't Rodeo Drive, but it has changed.
<<The people they control would rather be working at DELL that in the Iranian KODS forces.>>
There's some truth to that. But there are a lot of people in Iran - - 73 million, and they're not
all slackers. The lower ranks of the military always could count on uneducated boys from the countryside, and they're still available in large numbers.
<<Everybody knows the Iranian youth don't like the Mullahs and enjoy Western lifestyles.>>
That doesn't mean that they would welcome an Amerikkkan invasion any more than the Iraqis did. They know what the Shah and his secret police ("SAVAK") did to the people, and they're definitely not anxious to have the Amerikkkans pick their next leader for them.
<<Time is not on the Mullahs side.>>
The Mullahs can be replaced, that's for sure. Iran had a very active Communist Party, the "Tudeh" Party, which went underground after the Amerikkkans overthrew the Mossadegh government and brought the Shah back. A lot of people wonder where the Tudeh went and some people say you don't have to look any further than the Revolutionary Guards. The Mullahs weren't the first revolutionary government of Iraq, you know. First came the Bakhtiar government, then the Mullahs. I guess my point is that you don't have to be a religious fanatic to be an anti-American Iranian.
<<Oh yeah it [the U.S. position in Iraq and Afghanistan] is crumbling. LOL.
<<The democrats in Congress hardly even mention it anymore.
<<Remember the "put us in charge and we''ll get out of Iraq" -LOL - yeah sure Ms Pelosi
<<They control Congress and under them the surge of even more troops happened.>>
I think they're getting nowhere and everyone knows it. The Democrats are laying off the topic because they don't want to make any enemies in the "Stay the Course" crowd and the Republicans for similar but opposite reasons. Each side needs every vote it can get. When the election is over, you better hope it's a Republican because the Democrats are gonna pull that plug. It's not their war, they didn't start it, and they've got no ego at stake in it. As I've been predicting for a few years now, your currency can't stand the strain - - it's already floating downward, the stock market is going the same way, and major inflation is staring you right in the face. A huge continuing drain on your Treasury is a luxury you can no longer afford. This was actually the same reason that forced the U.S. to cut and run from Nam.
Here's something to think about - - you were lied to about every aspect of this war. What makes you think now they are telling you the truth about what it is costing? About a year ago, a Nobel-Prize-winning economist, Professor Joseph Stiglitz, said that the war had by then cost 1.5 trillion
dollars.
<<We will destroy enemies from the air.
<<Bomb and destroy militaries and infrastructure.
<<There won't be any "liberators" to greet because it will be done from the air.>>
Doesn't work though, does it? Your chickenshit armies will have to go there on foot, just like Afghanistan, just like Iraq, just like Viet Nam. But there aren't enough men now. There isn't enough money either. And Iran isn't some piss-ant little country like Iraq - - there are 73 million Iranians, only about 7 million less than the number of Vietnamese. Remember what happened when you tried to fuck with the Vietnamese, tough guy?
<<Yes it [nuking Iran] will happen if the IslamoNazis attempt to overthrow Israel, Jordan, or Saudi Arabia and it is needed.>>
No, it won't. Your country doesn't have the balls. The threats to Jordan and Saudi Arabia will come from the inside anyway. There will be no one to nuke. Israel will fall apart due to lack of funding when Amerikkka realizes - - or rather, when the Amerikkkan sheeple finally realize - - what their government's support of Israel is really costing them.
<<No it is what people will do if IslamoNazis really want to push their luck.
<<If you really think it is a fantasy then why do we spend billions making and maintaining nukes.
<<Yeah it's just a fantasy all those subs with nukes.
<<Yeah it's just a fantasy all the bombers with nukes.
<<Yeah NORAD operated 24/7 is a fantasy.>>
Those are all Cold War relics. They were built after the U.S. lost its nuclear monopoly to the U.S.S.R. It made a lot of sense to maintain a credible nuclear deterrent when it was obvious that the other side had the same kind of nukes, nuclear-armed subs etc. There was an arms race in which neither side could allow itself to fall behind. Why are these maintained? Because one day China will be as big a threat as they thought (or pretended) that Russia was. Nobody is maintaining that kind of nuclear capability to deal with Iran or any other Middle Eastern country, whose nuclear capability, at best, would be primitive.
<<Oh that is so scary what a nuked Iran could do to the United States.
<<Oh I soooooo scared.>>
You really sound like a fucking moron. The consequences would go far beyond what a nuked Iran would do to you. It's the rest of the world you'd have to deal with.
<<Oh another "The Arab street is gonna rise up"?
<<LOL
<<Yeah we've heard that before.>>
Let me spell it out for you. The Islamic Revolution, which cost Amerikkka its control of Iran, broke out because Jimmy Carter was dumb enough to allow the deposed Shah to enter the U.S. for "humanitarian reasons" for cancer treatment. The Second Intifada broke out because Ariel Sharon was dumb enough to make an unappreciated visit to the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. What do
you think would happen if any President was dumb enough to follow your moronic advice and nuke Iran?
<<Oh boy now thats [Russian re-armament] scary too.
<<Boy that could really keep Israel from nuking Iran.
<<LOL>>
Oh, my mistake, I guess your dollar's NOT circling the drain after all, and you're not on the brink of runaway inflation. And the price of oil is falling back. Musta got my facts twisted. So this is really a
good time for you to involve yourselves in another arms race. You can really afford another arms race, is that it?
<<Oh boy another really really scary thought. [that China will begin to line up allies in the Mid East]
<<Now that will really have Israel shaking in it's boots. >>
One way to get allies is to back them with weaponry, advisers and maybe even "volunteers" if they are considering the need for a little more military muscle. Depending on whom the Chinese wish to befriend, I think any sensible Israeli WOULD be shaking in his boots. But I didn't really mention this as a deterrent, simply because I think it's in China's interest to do this, and it would be in China's interest no matter what happens between Israel and its neighbours. The more aggressive Israel is with its neighbours in the region, the easier it will be for the Chinese to make friends.
<<Thats the point of war Michael.
<<Dont get killed and kill the enemy.
<<A guy with superior weapons should kill the enemy, not lay down superior weapons becasue the <<moron enemy must use a club.
<<Thats the point.>>
Well, let me ask you this, CU - - WHAT is the point of a war where it costs you an average fifty million or more dollars to kill one enemy soldier because the chickenshit cowards you send into battle are demanding tens of millions of dollars worth of high-tech weaponry to save their miserable worthless asses, while the enemy is fighting practically bare-assed naked and doesn't give a shit if he lives or dies? Who do YOU think is going to be the first one to break off the hostilities and go home?
<<Israel will never be defeated.>>
Oh but they've been defeated before. Lots of times. In the worst possible ways.
<<Their enemies will understand that very clearly.>>
They haven't quit fighting in 60 years, so I guess they don't understand it as clearly as you do. But then again, they only live there and see the situation first-hand so what the fuck would they know?
<<Hopefully soon>>.
Keep dreamin, CU
