what`s the point of going?

[kimba1]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/31/BAIMVHBG9.DTL

Admissions officers say the problem is that low-income students don't understand how little the university charges them, so they don't apply. Scott, for instance, has had to pay roughly $2,500 a year, which he did by working and taking out a small loan. The university covered the remaining $44,700.

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uhm
the $2,500 is still alot of money to low-income students
note that scott had to take -out a loan .
I`m not saying stanford is not doing a great thing.
but it`s not like good will hunting where if your smart enough you can go to any school .
it`s abit more tougher than that

[BT]

"We struggled to get there and once we got there, it was a culture shock," said one of Scott's friends, Tanya Koshy, a recent Stanford graduate. "Once you get over the initial shock and accept the fact that you're different and come from a different background, you can propel yourself forward and nothing can hold you back."

That's the point.

Being born poor is one thing, remaining poor is quite another.

[Rich]

$2,500 a year ...

I wish ...

[kimba1]

$2,500 is quite good for us people with decent jobs.
but these kids are from families whose income is much below that.
the chances are just slim enough to crush thier spirit to ever believe they would get to stanford.
the point is not that these people are making themselves poor.
it`s that they don`t know thay have a chance to go much farther than they thought.
ex. I have some extremely intelligent kids in my family,but I would never of thought of encouraging them to go to a college like stanford.
I have absolutely no doubt they can get in.
but the money aspect make it a instant don`t bother
but after this article I`m going to think different about it.
that article only talked about tuition.
I still don`t know about the other expenses
is the material cost(books,etc.) manageable or high?

[Rich]

I'm sorry, but $2,500 a year is nothing.

Get a job.

[Christians4LessGvt]

kimba i know college kids that easily make a hundred
dollars a night waiting tables a few nights a week
unless someone is disabled, putting together well
over $2500 either with part time jobs or working
during the summer is really not out of reach.
if someone can't scrape together $2500 it
could be a sign that they shouldn't be there
in the first place.

[kimba1]

in the article the kid did work part-time and still had to get a loan to cover it
also the math is all wrong .
raising $2,500 on part-time work is not the problem
raising $2,500 and supporting himself on part-time is the trick.
and he had live in his car for awhile.
I personally can easily scrap that money in much less than a year but I work full time and don`t go to school

[BT]

It's called delayed gratification.

I suspect that attitude is old school nowadays.

[kimba1]

it is a out dated notion.
why save money to buy something when you can charge it and pay for it later and if you still don`t have the money just don`t pay it .
but on matter for the poor getting to a high end college it`s a different matter.
these schools are simply not thought of as available.
it`s a unintentional economic class situation.
even 4less govt said the poor don`t deserve a high end education

[Amianthus]

even 4less govt said the poor don`t deserve a high end education

That isn't what he said.

He said that if they can't scrape together $2,500, then it might be a sign they shouldn't be there. That is a comment on the willingness to work to get an education, not saying "if they're poor they shouldn't go to a good school."

[kimba1]

but that`s the rub it assumed the person is not willing if him or her can`t get the money together.
to us $2,500 is not alot of money but for other it`s huge.
remember one of the factors to get a low tuition is the inability to earn a decent income.

[Amianthus]

to us $2,500 is not alot of money but for other it`s huge.
remember one of the factors to get a low tuition is the inability to earn a decent income.

My daughter made $2,500 last year (in about 4 months) working part time as a waitress. No skills or education required. They don't even require reading and writing anymore - the ticket she filled out for the food orders had little pictures of everything on it, just check off the items that were ordered.

[kimba1]

how on earth did she do that
at $500+ for rent and ultilities at least $100
and I got no idea what her food expense is
on  part-time that`s quite a acheivement
I hope you don`t think this is common.

[Christians4LessGvt]

"even 4less govt said the poor don`t deserve a high end education"

 

kimba can you show where I said what you claim i did?
please show me the exact words where anything even close to that was said?

your interpretation of my words is a bunch of baloney

i believe education is a key component of a rising tide
if they have a degree they probably wont rob you leaving the 7/11 at 2am!
education prevents crime
there are limited seats at Stanford
if some students will work part time and raise the $2500 needed
then they get to go
if someone has ten kids (whose fault is that?) and cant raise the $2500
then they may have to attend other schools that are readily available
all i said is if someone that is not disabled can't show enough motivation to raise $2500
then it could be a sign they don't belong there
$2500 is really not much money to raise
you can wait tables on weekends and nights
you can paint address numbers on curbs
you can print flyers and clean people's homes
everything cant be handed to you on a silver plate

[Xavier_Onassis]

i know college kids that easily make a hundred
dollars a night waiting tables a few nights a week
unless someone is disabled, putting together well
over $2500 either with part time jobs or working
during the summer is really not out of reach.
if someone can't scrape together $2500 it
could be a sign that they shouldn't be there
in the first place.
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Most people can't get a job that pays $100 a night, nor do most waiter jobs pay that much other than on weekends.
If you think this is easy, I suggest you try it.