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American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« on: April 09, 2008, 12:38:09 PM »

In case you missed this yesterday

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Congratulations Navy Seal Petty Officer Michael Monsoor on being
awarded the US Congressional Medal of Honor on April 8, 2008.

The American People and the Iraqi People will be forever greatly in your debt.

Hero - US Navy Seal Michael Monsoor




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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 02:13:26 PM »
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Congratulations Navy Seal Petty Officer Michael Monsoor on being awarded the US Congressional Medal of Honor on April 8, 2008.

You do realize that you are congratulating someone who is deceased?

His action was extremely brave and he did give his life for his comrades (not for Iraq or the American people as your post implies). Certainly worthy of the citation and I'm sure his family feels honored.
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 03:23:33 PM »
You do realize that you are congratulating someone who is deceased?

Do you realize that the Medal of Honor was awarded to someone deceased?
Come on man, don't be a buttplug.
Of course I am congratulating someone who is deceased.
I will do it again: "Michael Monsoor: Job Well Done".
I have been at funerals where the preacher after talking about great
deeds of the deceased, says things about the deceased being a great
father, ect, and then the precaher says to the deceased "John Smith Job Well Done".

His action was extremely brave and he did give his life for his comrades
(not for Iraq or the American people as your post implies).


Are you denying this Navy Seal died in service for his country?
He volunteered to go fight for his country. He knew the mission.
He willingly died in a heroic manner carrying out the United States mission in Iraq.
By giving  his life for that mission saving comrades he helped that mission.
Thus I said and still say the American People and the Iraqi people will be
forever in his debt.
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 08:16:22 PM »
Thus I said and still say the American People and the Iraqi people will be
forever in his debt.

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Are we still remembering the Maine?
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 09:36:24 PM »
"Are we still remembering the Maine?"

What is that supposed to mean?

Are you making sarcastic statements relating to a heroic
US Soldier awarded the US Congressional Medal of Honor yesterday?

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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 07:36:40 AM »
I am suggesting that "we will never forget" and "forever" are hyperbole.

Can you name the 27th recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor and tell me why he got his medal off the top of your head, for example?

All acts of heroism will eventually be forgotten. Perhaps recorded for posterity, but forgotten, nonetheless.
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 11:38:08 AM »
So XO I suppose we should not remember and honor those that make the ultimate sacrifice for this country so people like you can make light of it and pretend that nobody really gives a shit? Maybe we should just chunk the US Congressional Medal of Honor and end Memorial Day so disrepectful assholes won't even be bothered by the fact that without these honorable men's sacrifice in the past the disrespectfull assholes wouldn't even be standing in the United States.

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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2008, 12:19:43 PM »
In fairness CU4, that isn't what XO said at all. He wasn't being disrespectful either. You are setting up a strawman and knocking it down nicely.
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 01:07:22 PM »
An hit's Tommy this, an' Tommy that,
An "Throw 'im out, the brute;
But hit's "Savior of  'is country,
When the guns begins to shoot!"
                                      ---Rudyard Kipling

What I did say was that saying "we will never forget" and "we will honor him forever" is hyperbole.

The fact is that yes, we will, and no, we won't, unless you mean a name on a plaque or a website somewhere, maybe for a century or two.

If it was not, then you could easily recall the name and brave act of the 27th recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor in exactly the same way a lot of people know when and how many home runs Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron hit.

I am not interested in burning any flags, thank you very much.

About your foolosh little blurb:
The soldiers of Argentina at one time or another have smashed the presses, silenced free speech, denied fair trials and gunned down demonstrators, arrested others, drugged them and stripped them and threw them out of airplanes at 30,000 feet above the South Atlantic.

There are soldiers right here in the US Army who would do all these things if they were ordered to do so by their Commander in Chief. It could happen here and don't you forget it.

I am all for brave soldiers, but bravery is not all that is required to bring justice to this world, and it sometimes happens without a lot of bravery at all.
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 07:23:10 PM »
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I am all for brave soldiers, but bravery is not all that is required to bring justice to this world, and it sometimes happens without a lot of bravery at all.

I think that violence tends to get praised above all else, at least in the short term. Very good statement XO.
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   Coat my eyes with butter
   Fill my ears with silver
   Stick my legs in plaster
   Tell me lies about Vietnam.

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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 12:00:01 AM »
One recalls that Adolph Hitler was noted for his bravery in WWI and rewarded with the Iron Cross. If every soldier in the Wehrmacht had been so brave, we might be having this conversation in German.
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 12:37:28 AM »




The soldier does not give anyone rights. Certainly we can be grateful to those who defend our liberty, but there is no reason to start being (pseudo)righteous about something as false as the notion that soldiers give anyone rights. Which, if it were true, would be a dangerous thing because if the soldiers give rights to us then soldiers can take them away too.
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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2008, 02:17:42 AM »


I am all for brave soldiers, but bravery is not all that is required to bring justice to this world, and it sometimes happens without a lot of bravery at all.


Oh?

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Re: American Hero: Navy Seal - Petty Officer Michael Monsoor
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2008, 09:08:47 AM »
Oh?

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Just think for a change.

How much bravery was required for the Supremes to decide Brown vs. Topeka? Were the members of the Court in any danger at all?

How much bravery was required to establish the National Park System? The Alaskan Native Peoples' Corporations? 

Not one soldier even suffered a hangnail for most of the just decisions that have been carried out in the US.

In more countries than not, the military is a force AGAINST justice.

Soldiers do what they are told. Do you doubt for a second that you or your momma could not be gunned down by some soldier if he were told that you or your Momma were traitors and needed to die?  Not every soldier might follow the order, but most, and more importantly, one would, and fffft! no more Plane.
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