The Wright Stuff

[sirs]

[Plane]

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[sirs]

Hillary has to be salivating.  Too little, too late perhaps, regarding Obama's disassociation with the good Reverend?

He'd have had this nomination soooooooo wrapped up had he gave that recent speech regarding his Reverend about 1 year ago, vs waiting until it was politically necessary.

Again, pathetically poor judgement

[Brassmask]

According to North Carolina and Indiana, you're in the vast minority.

[sirs]

Well, since my reference was that he'd (Obama) would have had this nomimation wrapped up long ago, had he had the ethical morals to denounce Rev Wright's racist rhetoric long ago, and that he STILL hasn't wrapped up the nomination, despite Indiana & NC, I'd say my point has still be unrefuted

Nice try though

[Xavier_Onassis]

Well, since my reference was that he'd (Obama) would have had this nomimation wrapped up long ago, had he had the ethical morals to denounce Rev Wright's racist rhetoric long ago, and that he STILL hasn't wrapped up the nomination, despite Indiana & NC, I'd say my point has still be unrefuted

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I am thinking that if he had spat upon Rev Wright ten minutes after those sermon tapes were released, you still would not vote for him.

[Brassmask]

Well, since my reference was that he'd (Obama) would have had this nomimation wrapped up long ago, had he had the ethical morals to denounce Rev Wright's racist rhetoric long ago, and that he STILL hasn't wrapped up the nomination, despite Indiana & NC, I'd say my point has still be unrefuted

Nice try though

Uh huh, ok, whatever trevor.

[sirs]

Well, since my reference was that he'd (Obama) would have had this nomimation wrapped up long ago, had he had the ethical morals to denounce Rev Wright's racist rhetoric long ago, and that he STILL hasn't wrapped up the nomination, despite Indiana & NC, I'd say my point has still be unrefuted  Nice try though

Uh huh, ok, whatever trevor.

It's sirs, or Gary.  Don't know who Trevor is

I am thinking that if he had spat upon Rev Wright ten minutes after those sermon tapes were released, you still would not vote for him.

When I learned he was a member of this racist pastor's church for 20+ years, embracing him as his spiritual mentor & advisor, along with his terrible Socialist ideals of what he'd want to do to this country as President, pretty much negated my vote for him.  Spitting on him now would only be political pandering

[Rich]

You're all missing the fact that this is a democrat primary, not a national election. Democrats don't care that Obama is a racist or that he hobknobs around with terrorists. They just want to stay out da Bushes.

[Brassmask]

You're all missing the fact that this is a democrat primary, not a national election. Democrats don't care that Obama is a racist or that he hobknobs around with terrorists. They just want to stay out da Bushes.

Your apparent disdain for reality is really remarkable.

Your saying that Obama is a racist and he hobknobs with terrorists is comparable to my saying that McCain loved his VietNam captors and the fact that he doesn't raise his arms above his head is obviously a sign that he loves communism.

[sirs]

And just for the record, I don't think Obama is a racist (he'd have to be a great actor to be pulling that off), but that his piss poor judgement is the issue, showcasing himself now as just another run-of-the-mill politician, & that if this were on the other political shoe, would have had the GOP candidate run out of town, much less become the party's presidential nominee

[Rich]

Right about Obama
The latest Jeremiah Wright episode tells us a lot about his former parishioner.
by Matthew Continetti
05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33



Last week's highly entertaining episode of the Jeremiah Wright Show didn't tell us anything new about the demagogic reverend. He stands by his sick notion that American foreign policy and jihadist terrorism are equivalent, his defense of Louis Farrakhan, and his wacky conspiracy theory that the AIDS virus was cooked up by the federal government.

But we did gain a new perspective on Wright's former parishioner, Senator Barack Obama. And it's not flattering. It took the Democratic frontrunner 20 years--and 50 days since videos surfaced of Wright's incendiary sermons--to discover that the man who helped him become a Christian, officiated at his marriage, and baptized his two daughters is a conspiracy theory-loving self-publicizer. What does that say about Obama's "judgment," on which he largely bases his claim to the presidency?

Worse, one of the main reasons for Obama's unequivocal split from Wright had nothing to do with the reverend's hateful ideology. You see, Wright had the temerity to suggest that Barack Obama is just another pol. "What I think particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciations of his remarks were somehow political posturing," Obama said. This only confirms Obama's reputation for being thin-skinned and self-absorbed. Go ahead and count the "I"s and "my"s in this passage from his news conference:

In some ways, what Reverend Wright said yesterday directly contradicts everything that I've done during my life. It contradicts how I was raised and the setting in which I was raised. It contradicts my decisions to pursue a career of public service. It contradicts the issues that I've worked on politically. It contradicts what I've said in my books. It contradicts what I said in my convention speech in 2004. It contradicts my announcement. It contradicts everything that I've been saying on the campaign trail.

Obama's problem is that Reverend Wright is the same as he's always been. Indeed, during the first sermon Obama ever heard Wright deliver, the reverend spoke of a planet where "white folks' greed runs a world in need." Didn't that contradict how Obama was raised? Why wasn't he "outraged" then? In 2007 Reverend Wright referred to the "United States of White America" in one sermon and later presented a lifetime achievement award to Farrakhan. Didn't that run against "everything" that Obama had been saying on the campaign trail? Yet that year the Obamas gave more than $25,000 to Wright's church. Talk about contradictions.

It's not Wright but Obama who has changed. He has changed his position on his former friend time and time again:

*  "These days, [Obama] says, he attends the 11 a.m. Sunday service at Trinity .  .  . every week. .  .  . His pastor, Wright, has become a close confidant." (Chicago Sun-Times, April 5, 2004)

*  " 'Senator Obama is proud of his pastor and his church.' " (Obama campaign statement reported in the New York Times, April 30, 2007)

*  "[Wright] is like an old uncle who sometimes will say things I don't agree with." (February 25, 2008)

*  "I don't think that my church is actually particularly controversial." (March 2, 2008)

*  "I can no more disown [Wright] than I can disown the black community." (March 18, 2008)

*  "I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday. .  .  . The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago." (April 29, 2008)

What is going on here? There are only two possible answers. One is that Obama has had a revelation. He says he gave Wright the "benefit of the doubt" until he watched the April 28 performance at the National Press Club. That shocked his conscience. The scales fell from his eyes.

But at the press club, Wright was simply repeating things that have been on cable news for weeks--statements that Obama said previously were a "caricature" of an otherwise impressive man. The difference between then and now is that Wright has "amplified" those statements--thus inconveniencing Obama.

The other answer is that Wright is correct. Obama is doing whatever it takes to appeal to 51 percent of the population in any given place at any given time. Early on in Chicago, an association with Wright gave Obama cachet in the community. Now that association is undermining his presidential candidacy. Therefore it must end.

Needless to say, this isn't the best message for someone running on a platform of "change." Which is why Obama has called the Wright affair a "distraction." It is anything but. In his own way, Wright has done his country a favor. He has deflated the balloon that was Obamamania. He has exploded the pretense that Barack Obama is somehow different from all the other talented, flawed, ambitious, vainglorious men and women who have sought the presidency.

--Matthew Continetti, for theEditors

 
 
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[Rich]

>>Your apparent disdain for reality is really remarkable.<<

I think when it comes to grasping reality, it's obvious which of us holding on by a thread.

>>Your saying that Obama is a racist and he hobknobs with terrorists is comparable to my saying that McCain loved his VietNam captors and the fact that he doesn't raise his arms above his head is obviously a sign that he loves communism.<<

Like I said, it's pretty obvious.

I see that sirs disagrees, but I still believe that in order to stay in that church for 20 years, you'd have to be a racist. As for hobknobbing with terrorists, if I was asked to be a board member with an unapologetic terrorist I would certainly decline, or insist that said terrorist be removed before I agreed to sit on the board. I certainly wouldn't ask for a terrorists blessing for anything I might be considering. then there's his wife, who hates America and hates the White folk who run it.

That's enough evidence for me.

[Brassmask]

And just for the record, I don't think Obama is a racist (he'd have to be a great actor to be pulling that off), but that his piss poor judgement is the issue, showcasing himself now as just another run-of-the-mill politician, & that if this were on the other political shoe, would have had the GOP candidate run out of town, much less become the party's presidential nominee

So, since he knows someone who you allege is a racist, then he shows poor judgement?

[sirs]

So, if I push a White's Value system, I'm not a racist.  If I push for Whites to ban together to battle the forces I deem oppressive, I'm not a racist??  Is that what you're trying to say??

And no, KNOWING someone who's a racist was never the issue, and doesn't facilitate the label of piss poor judgement, no matter how many times you try to twist that.  Embracing that person as their mentor and spiritual advisor for 20+ years, is the piss poor judgement part.  And now Obama's attempt to disconnect himself from Wright merely shows how typical a politician he is, simply doing things that's politically expedient at the moment, and screw ethics & morals.  Whatever it takes to get elected.