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The Angry White Man
« on: May 09, 2008, 03:32:36 PM »
Yesterday, our old buddy, Mike Fleming wasted his opening monologue reading excerpts from this nutty editorial.

http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324


I was so outraged, I wasted a solid hour or so re-writing said nonsense to be more reflective of my viewpoint of the world.

If you have the time and inclination to wade through that garbage written by one Mr. Gary Hubbell (whoever he is). Then come back and read the rebuttal here.


THIS Angry White Man

There is one type of guy no one has recognized, and it is the type of guy
that will decide the election: THIS Angry White Man. THIS Angry White Man
comes from a from dirt-poor economic background and his risen to lower
middle class by his wits, hard work and his own choices. He represents all
geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck,
deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard because he's
been a reader and plugged into the American Zeitgeist all his life.

One of his traits is that he isn?t looking for anything from anyone ? just
the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field (even
though he knows full well that playing ground no more exists than FOX's
claim of being "fair and balanced"). He has been an independent
businessman but his business was destroyed when a WalMart moved into his
area and provided the same products at half the cost. He pays his share of
taxes and works hard just like everyone else in this country and doesn't
whine if he sees someone getting a deal that he isn't getting.

The victimhood syndrome buzzwords ? ?disenfranchised,? ?marginalized? and
?voiceless? ? do resonate with him because he's lived the last eight years
under the Bush Regime of Cultist Cronies who are prone to steal elections.

?Press ?one? for English? is a sign to him that America is finally
catching up to the rest of the industrialized countries on the planet that
have varied and diverse citizens who aren't too damned stupid to learn a
second language. Sometimes, he wishes that he didn't have to press one for
English and could conduct his business in Spanish rather than just
remembering a few phrases from high school and catching snatches of
conversational Spanish from his co-workers who have been to more countries
the he has or than George Bush had been to before he became "president".

He?s used to picking up the tab on occasion and doesn't pick it up every
time because nobody likes a showoff or a martyr who expects something
(like respect or adoration or subservience) in return for picking up the
stupid check at Ruth's Chris or Owen Brennan's. If he can afford it ,
he'll pay for the company Christmas party (everyone needs a drink at the
end of the year); but most times that party will be little more than a keg
and a party tray from Costco, because he's been working overtime to pay
for his dental insurance that is going to cover those three sets of braces
over the last few years. And he's been putting more into his 401K to pay
for those eventual three college educations or his firstborn daughter's
beautiful wedding. (God, she's already 22?)

He believes the Constitution is not always to be interpreted literally
because no document, no matter how much he respects and honors can
possibly be applied in exactly the same exact way to every single
situation in the human experience. Nor can he always view it as a
?living document? open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges like
Alito, Scalia and Roberts who have never worked an honest day in their
lives and believe that Bush has given them power to enforce their idea of
a god's will.

THIS Angry White Man has never owned firearms and has no inclination to
own one. He doesn't begrudge anyone else owning one (though he wishes
they didn't believe they have to own one to feel "safe) but he believes
that he?d be able to though not willing to pick up a gun to defend his
home and his country should there ever come a valid and honorable reason
for doing so. In his lifetime, there has been no reason for doing either.
EVER. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and
safety of others but NEVER to be party to an illegal invasion of a
sovereign nation for oil barons who would never have the guts to enter the
line of fire without a battalion circling them as they cower in the
floorboard of their overly-armored SUV that gets 20 miles to the gallon.

And the thought of killing someone is absolutely abhorrent to him because
that would make him feel like a failure as a human being; besides, who in
this world is qualified to judge who "deserves killing"?

THIS Angry White Man is not a metrosexual (though he does confess to an
affinity for nice suits, a solid massage and being clean), a
homosexual(though he knows and is related to lots of them and understands
that they helped him learned that one should never wear a black belt with
brown shoes) or a victim (he has no one but himself to blame for his
mistakes). Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina ? but he
understand that there is so much poverty and ill health in this world that
some people (even a lot in a major metropolitan center like New Orleans)
may have gotten stuck or just flat may not have known it was going to be
as bad as it was. PLUS, this IS America and if we'll send our military
into countries whose citizens are more than willing to shoot at them,
SURELY, we can send some of them into a natural disaster to help our own
citizens, RIGHT?

THIS Angry White Man would have gotten his people together and got the
hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and incapable of
helping themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or
a volunteer firefighter.

My last name and religion don?t matter. His background is French but he
considers himself a Human Being, no better and of no more value than any
other Human Being on this planet. Just another organism doing what comes
natural.

He?s no man?s man, those guys are usually testosterone-laden neanderthals
who don't know they're idiots. He is the kind of guy who likes to play
poker, watch football, change his own oil and build things. He is not the
kind of guy who would hunt white-tailed deer (Jesus, we raise and kill
enough meat to feed the world. Why kill one deer?), call turkeys (Uh,
what the hell is that?), play golf (he'd rather play frisbee), spend a few
bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon (Why not just hand the crack
dealer the money and cut out the horrors of prostitution and addiction?).

He coaches baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn?t ask for a
penny. He?s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a
couple of friends, dismantle an oil well, install a new battery in his
Prius, design a factory to produce solar panels and publish books on how
to install them.

He can build a wind farm so that you keep the lights on and never know
what it took to flip that light switch.

Women love him, but they know he?s a man, not a dishrag but he treats them
with honor, dignity and reverence. If they?re looking for someone to walk
all over they've been raised, they?ve got the wrong guy. He stands up
straight, opens doors for women and says ?Yes, sir? and ?No, ma?am.?

He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a
Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more rational on some
matters while he is more rational on others, and they guide the family in
a rational manner as a team.

He?s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of
certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes
of their class. He?s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work
hard, play by the rules and meet him halfway.

Most important, THIS Angry White Man is pissed off. When his county
becomes flooded with robber barons who don?t pay taxes and his wages drop
like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped
overseas because the CEO wants to buy another $6000 shower curtain and he
has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he
simmers.

When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for
slavery or some such nonsense, he flips to another channel when he
remembers that The Daily Show is on. When a child gets charged with
carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school,
he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement
who get on tv and never mention that parents are to blame for their
childrens' mistakes (especially the little, rich, white kids who think the
rules only apply to poor kids).

He also votes, and THIS Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton and George
Bush. Their voices reminds him of lots of other fascist who think the
electorate is too scared and stupid to reject their lies and collusion. He
recoils at the mere sight of them on television. Their very images
disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want them as their
leader. It?s not that she is a woman or that he is a moron. It?s that that
they are who they are. It?s the big business, corporate oligarchical
groups they panders to, the ?poor me? attitude that they represent when
someone tells them to go to hell, we're not taking it anymore and their
inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars
that they want to give to people who refuse to do anything for anyone but
themselves in the most vulgar, gilded age manner.

There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men
are members of the MoveOn.org, and all of them will vote against Hillary
Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for Barack Obama.

He hopes that she will NOT be the Democratic nominee for president in
2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum if she dares
to attempt to steal the nomination through backroom deals and threats
because THIS Angry White Man sick to death of voting against something,
being divided from his fellow humans by political hack strategists; but
most of all, he is sick and tire of being lied to.

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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 04:03:23 PM »
You certainly milded it down nicely .


Are you sure that there are four million who can answer to this description?


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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2008, 04:31:57 PM »
You certainly milded it down nicely .

Thanks.

Are you sure that there are four million who can answer to this description?

In a country of 300 million?  Yeah, I'd be willing to bet money on it but if you're asking if I have conducted some kind of survey or if I have some kind of link for anything in there, the answer is no.


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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2008, 06:25:40 PM »
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 08:10:58 PM »
You certainly milded it down nicely .

Thanks.

Are you sure that there are four million who can answer to this description?




In a country of 300 million?  Yeah, I'd be willing to bet money on it but if you're asking if I have conducted some kind of survey or if I have some kind of link for anything in there, the answer is no.





Membership in Move on .com 3.2 million

supposeing that 1/4 of the membership of move on .com is women and 1/4 is nonwhite the membership of Move on .com might be at most 5/8 angry , monolingual , gun free white men.
Move on membership 3.2 million X 5/8 = 2 million monolingual gun free angry white men.

Since I am already at half your estimate I will not go on to figure out how many of these guys at any one time have just had a joint and are therefore mellow rather then angry.

Demographic information.

http://www.moveon.org/about.html
http://www.amerispan.com/travel/article/Demographics_Hispanics_and_YOUR_Life_/63

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/13/1/15

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/us.html
« Last Edit: May 09, 2008, 08:17:20 PM by Plane »

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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2008, 08:49:01 PM »
Since I am already at half your estimate I will not go on to figure out how many of these guys at any one time have just had a joint and are therefore mellow rather then angry.


Considering that this piece was read on Memphis radio today as a rejoinder to Gary Hubbell's piece, I'd say I simply couldn't care less how many actual Angry White Men are literally members of MoveOn.org. 

However, you are, as usual, exemplary of EXACTLY the type of jackleg around here that seizes on one minute detail of a whole article/piece/post and thinks that since you decide to interpret a sentence in some literal sense supported by facts that then EVERYONE must interpret that sentence in exactly the same manner thus, in said jackleg manner attempt to take one minute detail and insinuate to the HILT that since that detail is not FACTUALLY true then the author of said article/piece/post is some kind of moron who doesn't know what he's talking about and therefore not worthy of someone's precious consideration.

If you want to interpret that line in that way, go ahead, I couldn't care less.  The alleged 3.2 million members of MoveOn.org is exemplary of the type of person I had in mind, not literally just men.


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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2008, 11:22:50 PM »
Since I am already at half your estimate I will not go on to figure out how many of these guys at any one time have just had a joint and are therefore mellow rather then angry.


Considering that this piece was read on Memphis radio today as a rejoinder to Gary Hubbell's piece, I'd say I simply couldn't care less how many actual Angry White Men are literally members of MoveOn.org. 

However, you are, as usual, exemplary of EXACTLY the type of jackleg around here that seizes on one minute detail of a whole article/piece/post and thinks that since you decide to interpret a sentence in some literal sense supported by facts that then EVERYONE must interpret that sentence in exactly the same manner thus, in said jackleg manner attempt to take one minute detail and insinuate to the HILT that since that detail is not FACTUALLY true then the author of said article/piece/post is some kind of moron who doesn't know what he's talking about and therefore not worthy of someone's precious consideration.

If you want to interpret that line in that way, go ahead, I couldn't care less.  The alleged 3.2 million members of MoveOn.org is exemplary of the type of person I had in mind, not literally just men.



Oh !did your essay have a fact in it?

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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2008, 11:50:13 PM »
I like your article, Brass.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2008, 03:53:39 AM »
Since I am already at half your estimate I will not go on to figure out how many of these guys at any one time have just had a joint and are therefore mellow rather then angry.


Considering that this piece was read on Memphis radio today as a rejoinder to Gary Hubbell's piece, I'd say I simply couldn't care less how many actual Angry White Men are literally members of MoveOn.org. 

However, you are, as usual, exemplary of EXACTLY the type of jackleg around here that seizes on one minute detail of a whole article/piece/post and thinks that since you decide to interpret a sentence in some literal sense supported by facts that then EVERYONE must interpret that sentence in exactly the same manner thus, in said jackleg manner attempt to take one minute detail and insinuate to the HILT that since that detail is not FACTUALLY true then the author of said article/piece/post is some kind of moron who doesn't know what he's talking about and therefore not worthy of someone's precious consideration.

If you want to interpret that line in that way, go ahead, I couldn't care less.  The alleged 3.2 million members of MoveOn.org is exemplary of the type of person I had in mind, not literally just men.



There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men
are members of the MoveOn.org, and all of them will vote against Hillary
Clinton, ...

Not a key point?
Used up a paragraph.

How about this one.

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"Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina ?"

That is certainly not true , in a big way.

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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2008, 04:09:34 AM »
I like your article, Brass.



I like it too , he might clean it up a bit and set it loose on the internet.

But don't tell Brassmask , you see quibbling is my job here.

So why do I like it?

Certainly not because I agree with it , the second admendment stance makes no sense to me at all and the idea that the Constitution is only selectively to be taken literally would be an important  part of setting up a dictatorship.

I think he has no more reason to whine about Bush policies than I did about Clinton policies , but I did so he can too.

He is probly right about the need for more of us to learn second languages , but the paragraph is stiched together poorly , not up to his own usual standard , I recon this is because he is trying to make his reply in the same terms as Hubbles , but his own style would be better.

He seems unaware that our military performed with great exelence and organisation in the aftermath of Katrina ,
 ...oh that is enough for now
... It is not my usual habit to take on an entire essay and cover all of its points , seeking every possible flaw, my hands tire too easily , and I should not pretend that I am a qualified editor.


So what do I like about it?
I learned from it , that is enough.

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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2008, 09:55:10 AM »
I am pretty sure there are plenty of Angry White Men (and women) out there that don't actually belong to Move.On.

Nice job, Brass.

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2008, 09:56:16 AM »
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THIS Angry White Man has never owned firearms and has no inclination to
own one. He doesn't begrudge anyone else owning one (though he wishes
they didn't believe they have to own one to feel "safe) but he believes
that he?d be able to though not willing to pick up a gun to defend his
home...should there ever come a valid and honorable reason
for doing so.


Gonna be hard to do if he doesn't own one or have one close at hand.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2008, 09:59:03 AM »
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He is not the kind of guy who would hunt white-tailed deer (Jesus, we raise and kill enough meat to feed the world. Why kill one deer?)

Because venison tastes better than beef.
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Re: The Angry White Man
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2008, 10:05:45 AM »
Because venison tastes better than beef.

And is better for you

And the money from your hunting license is put back into various forms of wildlife management, including habitat recovery and reintroduction programs.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2008, 10:48:11 AM »
Thanks to lanya and chicky.

I would suggest to those who are suggesting changes that you read the original article.  My piece here was nothing more than a rip off of the original which had a decidedly more conservative flavor.

In the original article, Mr Hubbell actually states that no one like his Angry White Man drowned in Katrina and that is where I got that line.