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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2008, 06:25:21 PM »

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And so it makes perfect sense to invade all of them?

Yes. If we are serious about stopping terror at it's source.

Are we?


Good question. Are we? Should we be? Don't we want to keep terror as a tool ourselves? Isn't that why we don't take the "nuclear option" off the table.
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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2008, 07:27:17 PM »
Hezbollah can not survive without Iran.

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That is an absurd statement.

Hezbollah is a Lebanese political party. It might not be able to lob rockets at Israel, but it could certainly survive without Iran. Your knowledge of world politics appears to be abysmal.

Bombing Iran will ensure that no moderate Iranian government will be able to come to power.

When Khatemi was in before Ahmedinejad, talks between the US and Iran could have resolved many problems. But Juniorbush was an asshole puppet of the NeoCons, and nothing happened. Iranians voted for Ahmedinejad because Juniorbush threatened their security


What has been preventing a moderate Iranian government from being able to come to power?

Is that moot or not?

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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2008, 08:06:14 PM »
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Don't we want to keep terror as a tool ourselves? Isn't that why we don't take the "nuclear option" off the table.


Are we now redefining terror?


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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2008, 08:16:58 PM »

Are we now redefining terror?


Are we? I don't believe so. Do you?
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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2008, 09:53:19 PM »
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Are we? I don't believe so. Do you?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of terror?

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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2008, 09:55:02 PM »
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Are we? I don't believe so. Do you?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of terror?


In the same sense that shelling Richmond and burning Atlanta were , people give up warfare when they are hurt enough , sometimes this is a lot.

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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2008, 10:13:24 PM »
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In the same sense that shelling Richmond and burning Atlanta were , people give up warfare when they are hurt enough , sometimes this is a lot.

Prosecuting a war to its fullest extent is now considered an act of terror?




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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2008, 10:55:25 PM »

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were acts of terror?


If the point was not to frighten and intimidate the Japanese into surrender, then what was it?
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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2008, 11:00:35 PM »
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In the same sense that shelling Richmond and burning Atlanta were , people give up warfare when they are hurt enough , sometimes this is a lot.

Prosecuting a war to its fullest extent is now considered an act of terror?





What should be the key diffrences?

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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2008, 11:04:51 PM »
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What should be the key diffrences?

I would think a formal or equivalent declaration of war between two or more nations would be a good start.


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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2008, 12:12:00 AM »

I would think a formal or equivalent declaration of war between two or more nations would be a good start.


In what way does that preclude the use of terror or seeking to inspire terror in the enemy as a tactic?
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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2008, 01:10:20 AM »
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In what way does that preclude the use of terror or seeking to inspire terror in the enemy as a tactic?

It doesn't. However i have never heard conventional warfare (no matter the weapon) tactics lumped in with terror tactics except by those more likely to be in favor of banning dodgeball on the playground. Have you crossed the great divide?


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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2008, 03:13:20 AM »

However i have never heard conventional warfare (no matter the weapon) tactics lumped in with terror tactics except by those more likely to be in favor of banning dodgeball on the playground. Have you crossed the great divide?


Not in the least. And please don't assume I'm talking about abandoning terror tactics. My comment about Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not a derogatory one.
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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2008, 03:20:48 AM »
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Not in the least. And please don't assume I'm talking about abandoning terror tactics. My comment about Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not a derogatory one.

I think we are confusing acts that may instill fear (terror if you will) like an air raid or the massing of a million troops at the Yalu River to terrorist acts like the WTC Bombings 1 and 2, Lockerbie, Munich, OKC, London and Barcelona.

I don't think they are the same, though granted instilling fear,  is a common denominator.


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Re: What other countries were we going to invade?
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2008, 03:25:02 AM »
Using terror as a tactic is not the same as terrorism, I suppose that is an argument that could be made depending on how one wanted to define the terms.
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