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Hillary Willing to be VP
« on: June 03, 2008, 05:20:24 PM »
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton on Tuesday told New York lawmakers she is open to being the running mate of Sen. Barack Obama, her rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, two of the lawmakers told CNN.


Sen. Hillary Clinton trails Obama by 159 delegates and is 201 delegates shy of capturing the nomination.

1 of 2 Rep. Charles Rangel, a senior member of the New York Democratic delegation, also told CNN, "I have reason to believe she is open to the [vice president] slot."

One of the sources added that former President Clinton has been privately pushing for a couple of weeks for his wife to be No. 2 on the ticket.

On Monday night, a close friend and advisor of the former first lady told CNN that Clinton will say tonight "that she will do whatever it takes" to put a Democrat in the White House. Barack Obama insiders saw that as an indication she would accept an offer to be his running mate if asked.

"In her speech [Tuesday] night, she will convey the message that first and foremost she is committed to Democrats winning in November and will do whatever she's asked to do," the Clinton advisor said.

"She will do whatever it takes to bring the party together to win and whatever is asked of her to make sure the Republicans are defeated," the advisor added.

Even though she discussed being Obama's running mate, her campaign chairman earlier in the day said Clinton was "absolutely not" prepared to concede the race after the polls close tonight in Montana and South Dakota, the final two contests on the primary calendar Tuesday night.

Terry McAuliffe rejected as "100 percent" incorrect an Associated Press report that Clinton is preparing to acknowledge that Obama has the delegates to win the nomination Tuesday night as the five-month Democratic primary process comes to a close.

Obama "doesn't have the numbers today, and until someone has the numbers the race goes on," McAuliffe told CNN.

Clinton continues to fight Obama in the Democratic primary season. Some 61 contests over five months will end Tuesday as Montana and South Dakota hold primaries.  Watch McAuliffe say the 'race goes on' ?

Only 31 pledged delegates are at stake in those two contests.

Obama on Tuesday had 2,083 delegates, just 35 delegates shy of the 2,118 needed to clinch the nomination, after a number of superdelegates announced their support for the senator from Illinois.

There are 193 superdelegates who have not backed a candidate.

Former President Jimmy Carter and Rep. James Clyburn, the No. 3 Democrat in the House and the highest ranking African-American in Congress, were two of the most prominent superdelegate endorsements that Obama picked up. Watch Clyburn endorse Obama

"I came to that decision because I do believe that he has elevated this campaign," Clyburn said. "He has energized our constituents. He is redrawing an electoral map for Democrats."

There are not enough pledged delegates at stake in Montana and South Dakota to put Obama over the top, but a rush of endorsements by the remaining undeclared "superdelegates" could allow him to claim victory when he takes the stage in Minnesota Tuesday evening.

Superdelegates are the approximate 825 Democratic governors, members of Congress, and party officials who each get to vote in the delegate nominating process. Around 200 of them have yet to endorse either Obama or Clinton.

In a bit of symbolism, Obama will spend Tuesday night at a rally at the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minnesota, the same arena which will house the 2008 Republican National Convention in September. Clinton will spend the night at an campaign event in New York City. What she will say is the question of the night. iReport.com: See what cartoonists think of the interminable race

Obama is looking more and more toward a likely general election matchup with John McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee. And while not taking anything for granted, it appears he's starting to look at Clinton as less of a rival and more as an important ally who can help him win in November.

"We're getting very close to the number that will, that will give us the nomination and if we've hit that number on Tuesday night, then we will. We will announce that and I think even if we don't, this is the end of the primary season, and I think it's very important for us to focus on the clear contrast that's going to exist between Democrats and Republicans in this election," Obama said this weekend while campaigning in South Dakota.

"Sen. Clinton is an outstanding public servant, she has worked tirelessly on this campaign, she has been a great senator for the state of New York and she is going to be a great asset when we go into November to make sure that we defeat the Republicans," Obama said on the campaign trail Sunday in South Dakota, adding Monday in Michigan that "she and I will be working together."  Watch Obama vow the party will come together after the primary ?

Clinton's road to capturing the nomination is much longer and more difficult. She trails Obama by 166 delegates and is 201 delegates shy of capturing the nomination. Her main shot at winning now appears to depend on a mass wave of superdelegate support, which seems unlikely.  See what's next for Clinton ?

Clinton's been making the case for weeks now that she's ahead in the popular vote in the primaries and caucuses to date. Much of this argument hinges on how Michigan's disputed primary is counted. If Obama is awarded no votes, since his name wasn't on the ballot, Clinton leads by 194,000 in the popular vote count. If Obama is awarded the 40 percent who voted uncommitted in the primary, he's ahead of Clinton by 45,000 votes in the overall count.  Watch Clinton outline her optimism ?

"The Clinton campaign is making every effort to convince superdelegates she is the best qualified and most electable Democrat to take on John McCain in November. The problem for Clinton is that it seems a little bit too late for her argument to stick even if these superdelegates did embrace her assertion that she is the leader in the popular vote," said Mark Preston, CNN political editor.


CNN senior political correspondent Candy Crowley reported that "only a handful of people at the inner core of the Clinton campaign knows what she's thinking about doing when Tuesday's dust settles, adding that "those who have been with her since nearly the beginning are saying she will not push this into the convention. As one close Clinton supporter put it, she's acutely aware of her place in the party. She will not ruin the party."

Clinton scored a large victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's primary. It could be a different story in Montana, where Obama is ahead in the most recent polls. Obama campaigned in the state late last week, before stumping over the weekend in South Dakota. Clinton spent Monday in South Dakota. A new poll out Monday in that state puts Clinton up by double digits. But regardless of the results, Tuesday night is much more about the big picture than about who won which primary.
 
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 05:22:42 PM »
A) I'm stunned she'd actually consider being 2nd fiddle
B) Obama would be truely out of his mind to even consider it, with the baggage she brings along
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 05:41:45 PM »
C) If Obama gives Hillary the second seat and wins the Presidency, he better be extra alert for assassins.
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 05:45:17 PM »
Ooooooooo, that's sooooo politically incorrect, Ami         ;)
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 06:13:05 PM »
I doubt that the most likely assassins would be Hillary supporters.
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 06:24:35 PM »
I doubt that the most likely assassins would be Hillary supporters.

Opinion noted.

I disagree; I think the Clintons are very capable of finding someone who would be willing to do so.
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 08:44:44 PM »
I doubt that the most likely assassins would be Hillary supporters.

Opinion noted.

I disagree; I think the Clintons are very capable of finding someone who would be willing to do so.

I concur.

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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 10:23:40 PM »
Reality check:  given the actual history of post-War political assassinations in America, I'd say the only realistic scenario would involve the CIA/extreme right taking out both of them, rather than either of them offing the other.

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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 11:04:24 PM »
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I'd say the only realistic scenario would involve the CIA/extreme right taking out both of them, rather than either of them offing the other.

McKinley was taken out by an anarchist and Kennedy was offed by a communist.


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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 11:30:49 PM »
You will recall I was speaking of post-war assassinations, so that rules out McKinley.  As for JFK, he was undoubtedly rubbed out by powerful forces connected to the foreign policy/national security apparatus, none of whom could be considered by any stretch of the imagination to be communists. 

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 12:03:27 AM »
McKinley was taken out by an anarchist and Kennedy was offed by a communist.

Wasn't Garfield's killer an anarchist also?  What was Bremer? Or the one that shot TR?

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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 12:04:30 AM »
Whatever Lee Harvey Oswald was, he was not acting as an agent of any Communist government. I believe he described himself best, referring to himself as a 'patsy'
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 12:11:32 AM »
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Whatever Lee Harvey Oswald was, he was not acting as an agent of any Communist government. I believe he described himself best, referring to himself as a 'patsy'

Never said he was an agent of anyone. Do you deny he was a communist?

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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2008, 01:53:09 AM »
Never said he was an agent of anyone. Do you deny he was a communist?

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I don;t think he was a member of the Communist Party USA, or of the party in Kiev, where he lived.
He seems to have had some Communist ideas.
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Re: Hillary Willing to be VP
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2008, 11:30:27 AM »
>>He seems to have had some Communist ideas.<<

One of them was defecting to the Soviet Union.

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