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Oh God
« on: June 19, 2008, 10:27:01 PM »
Do you know the Preamble for your state?

. . . interesting:

Alabama 1901, Preamble We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution.

Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land.

Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...

Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...

California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...

Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe...

Connecticut 1818, Preamble.The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.

Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences.

Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...

Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...

Hawaii 1959, Preamble We , the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish this Constitution.

Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.

Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.

Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.

Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution.

Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties...

Louisiana 1921, Preamble We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.

Maine 1820, Preamble We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity .. And imploring His aid and direction.

Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...

Massachusetts 1780, PreambleWe...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction

Michigan 1908, Preamble le. We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom establish this Constitution.

Minnesota, 1857, Preamble We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:

Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to All mighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.

Missouri 1845, Preamble We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish this Constitution...

Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for theblessings of liberty establish this Constitution

Nebraska 1875, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom . Establish this Constitution.

Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution...

New Hampshire 1792, Part I.Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.

New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty..

New York 1846, Preamble We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.

North Carolina 1868, Preamble We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those...

North Dakota 1889, PreambleWe , the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common...

Oklahoma 1907, PreambleInvoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this

Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences

Pennsylvania 1776, PreambleWe, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance...

Rhode Island 1842, Preamble.We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing...

South Carolina, 1778, Preamble We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

South Dakota 1889, PreambleWe, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties

Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...

Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.

Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.

Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man

Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other

Washington 1889, Preamble We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution

West Virginia 1872, PreambleSince through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people ofWest Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God .

Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility...

Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution..

 
After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe,
the ACLU and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong! 

(Please note that at no time is anyone told that they MUST worship God.)

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Re: Oh God
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 11:30:41 PM »
I dunno, that "Author of our Existence" sounds pretty Deist to me.

Hawaii only speaks of being grateful for "Divine Guidance"

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 11:46:49 PM »
That can be taken a lot of ways: are we talking Christian God, Jewish God, Moslem God, a Hindu God, a Shinto God, Buddha, a Greco/Roman God, a Norse God, a Celtic God, a Native American God, a Mayan God, an Incan God, a Swahili God, a Zulu God, a Malinese God, a Rus God?

Any of those could be adequately substituted.

When all but two of those were written, women couldn't vote and your senator was elected by state representatives.  Only three of those were written in the last 100 years.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2008, 11:51:17 PM by fatman »

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 11:49:55 PM »
Well, I say Christian majority rules.  THat is what the premables were probably referrring to.

This time I am in favor of the Deist preamble wise.

Now, I suppose we will have another one of those Deist ALMIGHT debates over religion. Ok, we have all been there done that on the board.  But frankly, I would love to get into a heated debate about faith on here...


Oh well, isn't there a room here on the DHS for this sort of dialogue?

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 12:02:23 AM »
<<When all but two of those were written, women couldn't vote and your senator was elected by state representatives.  Only three of those were written in the last 100 years.>>

Furthermore, every state with a history of slavery, Jim Crow and lynch-mob rule invariably ascribed its rule to almighty God.  And here was poor stupid little me, all the time thinking that it was politics that was the last refuge of the scoundrel.

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 02:43:50 AM »
<<When all but two of those were written, women couldn't vote and your senator was elected by state representatives.  Only three of those were written in the last 100 years.>>

Furthermore, every state with a history of slavery, Jim Crow and lynch-mob rule invariably ascribed its rule to almighty God.  And here was poor stupid little me, all the time thinking that it was politics that was the last refuge of the scoundrel.

Mtee....You have no idea of what it means to understand and embrace the very essence and reality of the Lord, Jesus Christ. Period.  Lest you are a believer in God. If not...you have no stage to witness here.

So,no, I take what you say with not only a grain of salt, but with sorrow----as you have no idea what it means to gather as "one body" ...in Christ.

Almighty GOD?
More like almighty power...and......ascribed, indeed.

Lord we are not worthy. But only say the word and we shall be worthy to be healed. There are so many Canadians who are Catholic believers, Michael...this I know.

scoundrel?

off base.

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 05:59:50 AM »
This preamble stuff is basically what lawyers call boilerplate.
Similar to making Little Johny say grace.
It makes the faithful happy, and all the rest have to do is roll their eyes ::) ::) ::)

I don't think it actually needs to be taken as deeply meaningful.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 03:25:26 PM »
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...But frankly, I would love to get into a heated debate about faith on here...

Oh well, isn't there a room here on the DHS for this sort of dialogue?

Yep. Feel free to use it anytime you want. It tends to move a bit slower than this one though.

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Mtee....You have no idea of what it means to understand and embrace the very essence and reality of the Lord, Jesus Christ. Period.  Lest you are a believer in God. If not...you have no stage to witness here.

I've walked both sides of that street, so I figure I do. I tend not to, though - I like the side I'm on right now, and I'm more than willing to let others choose their own.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 09:20:16 PM »
"I've walked both sides of that street, so I figure I do."

ditto.

Opposite side, but ditto, nonetheless.