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Moral-Hazard Legislation
« on: June 26, 2008, 02:43:38 AM »
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Moral Hazard: Congress has moved closer to passing legislation to bail out homeowners who are in trouble with their mortgages. Yet again, the taxpayers will be forced to pay for other people's mistakes.

Should it become law, the Dodd-Shelby bill, similar to one already passed in the House, would authorize the Federal Housing Administration to back $300 billion in refinancing loans for homeowners in danger of defaulting on their mortgages and who would be considered financial risks for other loans.

It passed a test vote 83-9 Tuesday and might be voted on for final passage as early as Wednesday.

We're used to Congress eagerly giving away other people's money. But it's been a while since we've heard a defense of a bill as twisted as the one offered by Sen. Chris Dodd, the Connecticut Democrat who chairs the Banking Committee from which the Senate legislation originated.

"What better gift on independence (sic) could we give the American people than a sense that this, their Congress of the United States, can come together, despite political differences, and craft legislation to make a difference for our country," he said.

Independence? Does Dodd not know that what he and the rest of Congress are doing will make those who don't get the bailout cash financially responsible for those who are?

There's no independence when one class of people are made beholden to others through public policy. Rather than a gift of independence, it's a curse of dependence that will be perpetuated.

Dodd probably understands this. It would be hard for him to have reached his station in life without understanding something so basic.

But in his haste to look compassionate to voters in an election year, he doesn't care. It's the same intellectual and ethical indifference on which he and most of his Capitol Hill colleagues operate.

They aren't concerned about the moral hazard they create by legislating taxpayer-backed bailouts, because they don't have to live with the consequences. They've likely turned off the parts of their brains that would alert them to the dangers of bailing out "victims."

Yet the risks remain. When people are reasonably certain that foolish behavior ? such as buying a house that is clearly unaffordable ? won't be punished by reality, and indeed will be rewarded by someone in authority, they are likely to engage in that behavior without conscience.

The homeowner bailout is only the most recent chapter in Congress' black book of moral-hazard legislation.

Lawmakers have provided incentives for Americans to live in flood plains, hurricane alleys and earthquake zones, or to make shaky investments (recall the savings and loan failure) then go running to government for help when they have been exposed to a disaster or failure for which they were not prepared.

As lawmakers rushed the bill through, a related matter made headlines Tuesday. The Case-Shiller home price index, which monitors sales in 20 cities, fell by 15.3% in April compared with April 2007.

It is the steepest rate decline in the eight years the data have been collected, a precipitous fall that the Dodd-Shelby bill could reverse by providing incentives for homeowners to keep their houses through cheaper home loans rather than put them on the market.

The assumption in Washington is that there's something wrong with declining home prices. Yes, the value of U.S. housing stock has fallen, and with it some personal wealth.

But Congress wouldn't consider propping up high prices for food or gasoline ? though it's doing so inadvertently by refusing to drill for new supplies ? or even umbrellas.

Why should it make homes less affordable? In what rational world do lawmakers actively deny homeownership to hardworking Americans by artificially increasing the cost of housing?

President Bush has said he'll veto a bailout bill if Congress sends him one. He should. Many Americans need to unlearn their belief that government is a nanny to catch them when they fall, and learn to define the phrase "moral hazard."



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"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Moral-Hazard Legislation
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 09:24:14 AM »
Why prevent Americans from being throw out of their homes when we can build and rebuild stuff in Iraq for Iraqis? Why not fling all that money at Halliburton and Blackwater so they can loot many times what any mortgage crisis could?

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Re: Moral-Hazard Legislation
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 11:00:11 AM »
Can we say "strawman"?  I knew you could             ::)
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Re: Moral-Hazard Legislation
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 11:18:04 AM »
Now SIRS dont ya think everyone needs a home?
No, they have a "right" to a home.
And when I say everyone yeah the illegals too.
If they all have a right to "Free Healthcare" then why not a home?
Why not "free" high speed internet?
Why not "free" food?
Why not "free" transportation?
Why not "free" oil.
Pass me my purple microdot acid dude!
Aunty M, I just wanna go home.
Plus I say we bail out all the big corporations and investment banks brokers like XO wants to do.
Shame on you Sirs!


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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 04:20:51 PM »
What I like about this debate is that it once again highlights the total disconnect between Republicans and real life.  Where some Joe Sixpack stud and his not-too-bright spouse and idiot kids see an existential dilemma - - homelessness or pay what they ain't got to a financial institution - - the Republicreeps see, or pretend to see, a "moral dilemma" - - pay off his mortgage debt, while sparing the family the ordeals of homelessness, fosters the dreaded "dependency."

The Republican on the pier, watching the guy drowning ten feet away from him - - "well, I could throw you this line, but what would that do to your motivation to learn to swim?"

I hope everyone gets to see this sterling example of the Republicreep philosophy in action: a more heads-up-the-ass, I'm-alright-Jack mindset one cannot find anywhere.

Forget about the fact that government deregulation of the financial industry is what allows these two-legged jackals to prey in Darwinian fashion on the innocent hopes and dreams of the dumbest and least sophisticated citizens, but the epidemic of belt-tightening penury, increasing debt load, two and three and four jobs for parents of young kids, despair and loss of habitat that necessarily follow are nobody's fault but the victims, and, somehow, those who deregulated the industry that fattend on them have no responsibility at all.

Hey to each his own.  Let the voters see clearly where each candidate stands and then make their choice.

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 04:32:25 PM »
Tee's fatal flaw to his so called Republicreep's assertions, is he's not voluteering to throw his line, he's mandating that everyone else throw their lines, and screw swimming lessons.  We'll just build a big net over the ocean, payed for of course, by everyone else
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 04:43:28 PM »
<<Tee's fatal flaw to his so called Republicreep's assertions, is he's not voluteering to throw his line, he's mandating that everyone else throw their lines, and screw swimming lessons.  We'll just build a big net over the ocean, payed for of course, by everyone else>.

Please keep it up, sirs, you're digging the hole deeper and deeper.  Now tell the voters that in addition to everything I already pointed out in my last post, the Republicreep position is that while it isn't the government's obligation to spend one nickel to rescue the victims of deregulation, everyone who thinks it should be is a hypocrite for not writing personal cheques to repair the damage.  (It is, however, the government's obligation to spend three trillion dollars and sacrifice the lives of over 4,000 U.S. troops so that the 23 million good citizens of Iraq can enjoy the full blessings of democracy, whether they want them  or not.)

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 04:55:24 PM »
And like clockwork, Tee pulling out the Iraqi strawman.  Who's hole again?  I'll order you a shovel for Christmas
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 04:58:58 PM »
S it's a-okay to fling good money after bad in Iraq, but God forbid we use any of it to keep Amerians in their homes and neighborhoods from turning into crack dens?

This is the sort of crap one always hears from Republicans.

They woud rather sed the money off to Iraq, where Halliburton can filch it more easily.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 05:11:27 PM »
No, actually it's not ok to fling ANY$$$ at a problem, thinking $$$ will solve the problem.  Billions into Medicare....going bankrupt, Billions into SS.....going bankrupt, Billions into Public education....system & scores getting worse by the year.  Left's answer to a problem.....MORE $$$$.  You make a bonehead decision to buy a home you have no busness trying to buy, Left's answer....MORE $$$$.  Never once conceding it's NOT THEIR $$$$.  It's the people's money.

Cry all you want about so-called throwing good money at Iraq, as that's largely a strawman.  Point is we have a CONSTITUTIONAL committment to protecting this country, which translates into supporting our military with men, equipment, & logistics.  We should have better financial accountability, but spending money on our military is a moot point, we're supposed to. 

We have NO mandate to use tax payer dollars to bail out people that had no business trying to buy a home they couldn't afford.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 05:18:35 PM »
<<And like clockwork, Tee pulling out the Iraqi strawman. >>

Keep digging, sirs.  You're doing great.  Tell the voters that not only will the Republicreeps not spend a nickel to bail them out and save their homes, but when Obama points to their gleefully blowing three trill to bring "democracy"  (yeah, you heard it right, "democracy!") to the Iraqis, tell'em the three trillion bucks is a "strawman."  Whoooeee!!  I just can't wait to see the voters' reaction to THAT one!!  Just take about three quick paces back immediately after you deliver that last line and cover your face.

<< Who's hole again?  >>

Huh?  What hole?  Nobody's.  Ain't no hole.   Keep on talking, sirs, you're doing a terrific job.

<<I'll order you a shovel for Christmas>>

Yeah, whatever, sirs, the election'll be long over by Christmas, order as many shovels as you want, you can always use some to bury the left-over McCain posters in your garage.

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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2008, 05:23:10 PM »
and let the Iraqi strawman brigade continue
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2008, 05:31:11 PM »
<<and let the Iraqi strawman brigade continue>>

Well, for sure let the Repubicreeps continue to raise the "strawman" answer when their party's blowing of three trill on Iraqi "democracy" is compared to the refusal to bail out American homeowners.

Keep talking, sirs, that's what I want to hear from now till Election Day.  Strawman, strawman, strawman.  The voters'll get it, sirs.  And if you can find any other way to belittle their concerns over losing their own homes, don't neglect to use that either.  You can never alienate too many voters, sirs.  They love it when you piss them off by taking their money to spend by the trillions on Arabs and refuse to use any of it to save the homes they themselves happen to live in.  Shows character.  Shows 'em you're serious about fighting the "culture of dependency."  Just what they wanna hear.  Addresses their core concerns.

This is gonna be some great election.

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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2008, 05:38:56 PM »
Character, or lack there of in this instance, is to try and validate the arguements of throwing $$$ at those that had no business trying to buy a home they couldn't afford, rewarding their stupidity by punishing the responsible, by comparing it to so called throwing $$$ at the supposed quagmire of Iraq.  Hoping upon all hope that people remain ignorant of our constitution and the facilitation of rewarding failure while punishing success.

Tee ---> shovel ---> Deeper & Deeper Hole
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2008, 07:38:53 PM »
<<Character, or lack there of in this instance, is to try and validate the arguements of throwing $$$ at those that had no business trying to buy a home they couldn't afford, rewarding their stupidity by punishing the responsible, by comparing it to so called throwing $$$ at the supposed quagmire of Iraq.  Hoping upon all hope that people remain ignorant of our constitution and the facilitation of rewarding failure while punishing success.>>

sirs, you have done better than I ever could have hoped to do in drafting the Republicreep position on foreclosure rescue.  Call hardworking Americans losing their homes, "stupid."  Check.  Silence on those who created the crisis by deregulating the financial services industry, check.  Silence on the jackals who leveraged the credulity of honest hardworking American families by selling them on mortgages they couldn't and didn't understand, check.  Tell honest hardworking American families that saving them from homelessness comes a distant second to providing "democracy" to the Iraqi people, check.  Call saving honest hardworking American families' homes, "rewarding failure," check.  Contrast that with the enormous benefits obtained from the three trillion dollars spent to date in Iraq, paying off rival death squads, torture chambers, etc.check.   Don't forget to say "STRAWMAN" loud and clear whenever a dispossessed homeowner complains about 3 trill down the drain in Iraq, sirs, they'll LOVE that.

You've got it all, sirs - - the perfect campaign argument for John McSame, fake torture victim, collaborator, radio broadcaster (for the other side.)    Use it every chance you get.  It's a fantastic argument, sirs.  Honest.  Cross my heart.  It works.