IRAQ: "The largest reenlistment ceremony ever held"!

[BT]

The re-enlistment of a bunch of brain-dead bozos all at the same time in the same place has about as much bearing on either issue as the mass marriage of one thousand couples by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon would have on the issue of marriage.

Glad you killed that strawman.

[Michael Tee]

<<Glad you killed that strawman. >>

You lost me there, BT.

[BT]

Sorry. I'll speak slowly.

They didn't reenlist because of the surge. They reenlisted because they felt what they did was meaningful.


Probably the same reason you go to work everyday.

[Michael Tee]

<<They didn't reenlist because of the surge. They reenlisted because they felt what they did was meaningful.>>

Got it now, thanks.  You are correct. 

For the record, the article made it clear that money was also a significant factor in the decision.  These guys are anything but the brightest bulbs in the marquee, so whether or not they believe in the mission is not of much assistance in assessing its vaule anyway.


<<Probably the same reason you go to work everyday. >>

Then they'd be going in for a mixed bag of reasons, in which the money plays a major but not necessarily dominant role.

[BT]

For the record, the article made it clear that money was also a significant factor in the decision.  These guys are anything but the brightest bulbs in the marquee, so whether or not they believe in the mission is not of much assistance in assessing its vaule anyway.

Parlaying training received on the bosses dime into a 75K tax free signing bonus doesn't seem so stupid to me.

[Plane]

"  These guys are anything but the brightest bulbs in the marquee, ...."

 I wish I could test them against a randomly chosen group of Canadians , to prove you wrong.

  But of course I can't.

I don't suppose you tested anything at all to come to this opinion , so I don't need to prove anything either.

But I wonder indeed how many of the advradge persons could operate modern weapon systems ?

[Michael Tee]

<<Parlaying training received on the bosses dime into a 75K tax free signing bonus doesn't seem so stupid to me.>>

I guess it depends on the final outcome.  Let's see them spend it from inside a body bag.

[Michael Tee]

<<But I wonder indeed how many of the advradge persons could operate modern weapon systems ?>>

Give them the right training and how hard can it be?

[Christians4LessGvt]

"I guess it depends on the final outcome.  Let's see them spend it from inside a body bag"

What percent of US Military personnel that serve in Iraq return in a body bag?

Car crashes killed 44,000 Americans in 2006.

[BT]

I guess it depends on the final outcome.  Let's see them spend it from inside a body bag.

I'm pretty sure inheritance works the same as for civilians.

[Plane]

<<But I wonder indeed how many of the advradge persons could operate modern weapon systems ?>>

Give them the right training and how hard can it be?

http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m1abrams.html


http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m1abrams.html#M1A2


As hard as any other very tecnical equipment management , while being shot at.

[Michael Tee]

Nice picture.  So how long is the training period altogether?  a week?  a month?  Let's not get carried away with the so-called complexities of it all.  If those guys had any real smarts, let's face it, they wouldn't be learning how to drive an Abrams tank anyway.  They'd be on to bigger and better things.

[Plane]

Nice picture.  So how long is the training period altogether?  a week?  a month?  Let's not get carried away with the so-called complexities of it all.  If those guys had any real smarts, let's face it, they wouldn't be learning how to drive an Abrams tank anyway.  They'd be on to bigger and better things.

Woah ....you are so severely off base I can hardly know where to start.

In the US Navy you can learn Nuclear Phisics which is a good idea if you are working on a nuclear submarine. In the Army you can learn ballistics which you are gonna need to understand to aim a cannon. In the Airforce you can learn the latest electronic communication techniques .

Also anything else, there isn't a skill that the military doesn't have some version of and training for .Soldiers and sailors get a lot of encouragement to study and save up for education.

[Michael Tee]

<<Woah ....you are so severely off base I can hardly know where to start.>>

A good place to start would be by answering my question, which was very simple.  You attempted to prove how hard it was to operate an Abrams tank by showing a photo of some of the controls, and I asked you how long it took to learn to operate the thing.  So:  how long does it take?

<<In the US Navy you can learn Nuclear Phisics which is a good idea if you are working on a nuclear submarine.>>

Yeah, that's complex alright.  We learned nuclear physics in Grade 13 high school, starting with e = mc² but I don't consider any of us Einsteins for having learned it.

<< In the Army you can learn ballistics which you are gonna need to understand to aim a cannon. In the Airforce you can learn the latest electronic communication techniques >>

Well, we should just quit sparring around here.  I'm sure some of that stuff and the degree of knowledge required, IS pretty complex and not for everyone.  There would be some pretty smart guys who learned that stuff and I have to show appropriate respect.  (I better, cuz I think hnumpah is one of those guys.)  But I wouldn't think the techies are the typical GI's, most of whom are low-grade morons who can probably operate an assault rifle and a K-bar knife with some basic torture routines thrown in and know enough military law to realize that the best witness is a dead witness.

[Xavier_Onassis]

No one disputes that one CAN learn useful stuff at some military jobs.

But the question is one of numbers. How many actually do learn a skill more useful outside the military?

Would Plane, for example, earn more if he worked for Southwest Airlines?
If so, why doesn't he work there?