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Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« on: July 10, 2008, 09:41:34 AM »

Is this guy running full sprint to the middle?

Now Obama says immigrants should "HAVE TO" learn English

No it's not optional, they should "Have To"!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K7HfvCDg4E[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K7HfvCDg4E
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 12:42:05 AM »
nothing wrong with being in the middle

it the extremes that`s getting us in trouble.

notice how people always tend to blame one side or the other
rarely the middle
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 03:32:46 AM »
What's so funny to me about this is how those on the right don't know what to say about Obama's comments.  I've seen some righties railing about how Obama wants to force all Americans to speak spanish!

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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 05:06:57 AM »
It is required, by law which as we all know is loosely and situationally applied-that all new citizens must learn to read, write and speak english.

They only need theminimum to get by.

I'd be more impressed if Obama were discussing federal laws against requiring american citizens to become bilingual.

As for how republicans react to him: well, he and McCain aren't really that different...
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 01:13:51 PM »
Immigrants already have to learn English in order to be naturalized.  This would conceivably only apply to those immigrants who need to have work visas or something similar.
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 07:51:53 PM »
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 11:39:59 PM »
Is there an exception for deafness?

If you speak ASL, it makes no difference whether you relate the signs to English words, Spanish words or Choctaw words.
I do not think we admit unskilled deaf people into the US labor force. Perhaps we admit deaf spouses or children.

I see no problem with requiring basic English fluency of immigrants. There are a lot of people here in Miami that see no need to learn English, though.

Still there are five times or more Spanish speakers taking ESL classes than English speakers taking Spanish classes, and the majority is clearly Spanish-speaking.
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 11:43:21 PM »
Quote from: kimba1 on July 11, 2008, 12:42:05 AM
nothing wrong with being in the middle

it the extremes that`s getting us in trouble.

notice how people always tend to blame one side or the other
rarely the middle


Is Barak Obama naturally in the middle or is he frontin?
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2008, 12:11:33 AM »
"There ain't nothin' the middle of the road but yellow lines and dead armadillos."

--Jim Hightower.
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2008, 12:51:45 AM »
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"There ain't nothin' the middle of the road but yellow lines and dead armadillos."

--Jim Hightower.

What does Hightower know about the middle?
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2008, 05:32:43 PM »
What does Hightower know about the middle?

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I would venture th say that he knows more about the middle and the left and the right as well than I do.

Or you, either, for that matter.
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2008, 06:12:15 PM »
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I would venture th say that he knows more about the middle and the left and the right as well than I do.

Or you, either, for that matter.

How so? Because he has a radio show?
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2008, 09:55:57 AM »

How so? Because he has a radio show?

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I have never heard of his radio show, but I have read his articles and heard him on occasion, and he really does understand politics in general and Texas politics in particular that you or I will.

He generally offers fresh perspectives on what he discusses. I am unaware of any you might have offered. Perhaps you do not consider originality of thought and perspective to be desirable.
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2008, 01:53:25 PM »
Hightower is nothing more than a modern day Will Rogers. So much for his originality.
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Re: Obama: "Immigrants should HAVE TO learn English"
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2008, 02:00:21 PM »
Hightower is nothing more than a modern day Will Rogers. So much for his originality.


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That is like saying "a modern day Einstein" or a "modern day Joseph Heller". Will Rogers was also noted for being original, like Mark Twain.

Hightower is original in his own fashion, though he does bear some resemblance to Will Rogers
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