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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: A nation of whiners
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2008, 09:16:32 PM »

No. He was annoyed by certain people talking down the economy for political advantage.

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In that case, "whining" is not the proper word.

What the poo difference does it make to him, anyway?

In what country are people going to mend their wicked ways when accused of whining?
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: A nation of whiners
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2008, 10:16:54 PM »
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In what country are people going to mend their wicked ways when accused of whining?

Not this country.

Observe the whining about being called whiners.


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Re: A nation of whiners
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2008, 11:35:42 AM »
Not this country.

Observe the whining about being called whiners.


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Precisely.

Now Gramm is allegedly an experienced politician, ostensibly well versed in the temperment of the American people, and yet he calls the voters "whiners". There are two reasons that this is a stupid move: (a) the people who have increased their productivity greatly in the past four years and yet have received no raises, and now are faced with paying $4.25 for a gallon of gas and 10% more for food are not whiners, but justifiably complaining, as is anyone who has lost his/her job and now has zero income because of the unwisdom of fighting a useless war on credit, and (b) even if the whining is unjustified and excessively shrill, loud or childish, the whiners will not mend their ways, nor will the justifiably complaining conplainers cease complaining just because this dorky ex-senator turned fatcat zilionaire lobbyist calls them whiners.

The conclusion? Gramm is incompetent as a politician, and has proven his wortthless self to be as useless as tits on a bull, balls on a priest and dentures on a hen, and had he been manufactured rather than born, a giant light on his forehead would flash, blinking "TILT" in neon letters, followed by him wilting into a pile of plastic, like some badguy robot henchman in a bad Sci-fi film.
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Re: A nation of whiners
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2008, 11:53:07 AM »
Gramm isn't a politician, he is an economic adviser to a candidate.

If his truthful remarks about the recession cause you to reconsider voting for that candidate, so be it.

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Re: A nation of whiners
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2008, 03:16:22 PM »
Gramm isn't a politician, he is an economic adviser to a candidate.

If his truthful remarks about the recession cause you to reconsider voting for that candidate, so be it.

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Gramm was in the government for over a decade. His lobbyist job is a direct result of his political experience. He is most certainly a politician, though he does not seem to be a very bright one. Calling people "whiners" is NOT a truthful remark, nor is it an untruthful one. It is an opinion. It is a value judgment, not a fact. It may be based on a fact.

If I say your nose resembles a hubbard squash and it does, that is a fact. If I say you are ugly beyond the call of duty, that is just an opinion.


A truthful remark would be: "we are technically not in a recession, and those that say we are seem to be mistaken, if we use the usual definition of a recession".

I think he could handle the job of chauffeur to the US Ambassador to Belarus would suit his level of expertise fine.
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